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[Loren Pechtel]

And you should look at the reality. If you let her stay just because she procreated it gives illegals a very easy way to become deportation-proof: just procreate. It would merely incentivize millions more fertile Mexican and Central American illegals to flood across the border and start having children.

In reality Guadalupe should have been deported in 2008. Then her kids would have been much younger.

You are in effect asking to wreck the lives of two completely innocent American citizens over a very minor act by one of their parents. You are evil.

She was convicted of a felony. Hardly a "very minor act". And you are in effect asking to make illegals who procreate deportation-proof. I think that is the bigger evil here.

It's classed as a felony but her actual wrongdoing was working under somebody else's social security number.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Bullshit! Just because I reject the left-wing orthodoxy does not make me a bigot. I do not want US to become part of Latin America through mass migration of hispanics.

In other words you are a racial separatist.

 

[laughing dog]

Or Noel Ignatiev. Harvard professor argues for 'abolishing' white race
And many others.

If you bothered to actually read the nonsense you cite, you would see that Professor Ignatiev is arguing for abolishing the social construct of the white race, not the actual abolition of the white race. Unless he is also arguing to eliminate the social construct of race, then I think his idea is silly and impractical, but that does mean it should be mischaracterized.

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[Loren Pechtel]

Or Noel Ignatiev. Harvard professor argues for 'abolishing' white race
And many others.

If you bothered to actually read the nonsense you cite, you would see that Professor Ignatiev is arguing for abolishing the social construct of the white race, not the actual abolition of the white race. Unless he is also arguing to eliminate the social construct of race, then I think his idea is silly and impractical, but that does mean it should be mischaracterized.

The problem is when you have someone arguing for something impossible people tend to interpret it in the closest fashion that actually could be.

 

[Derec]

If you bothered to actually read the nonsense you cite, you would see that Professor Ignatiev is arguing for abolishing the social construct of the white race, not the actual abolition of the white race. Unless he is also arguing to eliminate the social construct of race, then I think his idea is silly and impractical, but that does mean it should be mischaracterized.

I did read that pseudo-intellectual drivel. The point is that this racist drivel would not be tolerated had he argued to abolish the 'construct of the black race'. He'd be run out of academia. But anti-white racism is acceptable. Just look at #BLM Toronto and its overtly racist co-founder who is suffering no consequences for her racist statements.

 

[Derec]

In other words you are a racial separatist.

Wrong! Racial separatism is the other end of the spectrum, and equally bad. But mass migrations have never worked out well for the host societies. Acknowledging that fact does not mean that I believe races should not mix, especially since Hispanic is not a race anyway.

Note that I make a big distinction between regular immigration and mass migration.

 

[Derec]

It's classed as a felony but her actual wrongdoing was working under somebody else's social security number.

Where do you draw the line? Note that she is an illegal, which means that she is technically eligible for deportation even without committing any further crimes.
I would agree with you that if she was a legal resident but she wasn't and not making a distinction between the two makes the mockery of the whole immigration system.

When did you become such a staunch defender of illegal immigration anyway?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

In other words you are a racial separatist.

Wrong! Racial separatism is the other end of the spectrum, and equally bad. But mass migrations have never worked out well for the host societies. Acknowledging that fact does not mean that I believe races should not mix, especially since Hispanic is not a race anyway.

Note that I make a big distinction between regular immigration and mass migration.

America had mass migration in it's early days and it was a good thing for us.

The problem with the Middle East migrants is an awful lot of them have little in the way of meaningful job skills. They see the west as a land of milk and honey and don't understand that that's only true for those with valuable skills. Especially here in America you pretty much need a degree for it to be a good place.

It's classed as a felony but her actual wrongdoing was working under somebody else's social security number.

Where do you draw the line? Note that she is an illegal, which means that she is technically eligible for deportation even without committing any further crimes.
I would agree with you that if she was a legal resident but she wasn't and not making a distinction between the two makes the mockery of the whole immigration system.

When did you become such a staunch defender of illegal immigration anyway?

I'm not a defender of illegal immigration. I'm saying that in this sort of case the cure is worse than the disease.

 

[Harry Bosch]

I keep hearing this bullshit that sanctuary cities create greater crime.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/no-evidence-sanctuary-cities-breed-crime/

According to these studies, they do not.

 

[Derec]

I keep hearing this bullshit that sanctuary cities create greater crime.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/no-evidence-sanctuary-cities-breed-crime/

According to these studies, they do not.

But can you trust a study made by University of California when their funding depends on pro-illegal government of California?
Why should cities harbor illegal aliens? What possible justification is there for that?

 

[laughing dog]

If you bothered to actually read the nonsense you cite, you would see that Professor Ignatiev is arguing for abolishing the social construct of the white race, not the actual abolition of the white race. Unless he is also arguing to eliminate the social construct of race, then I think his idea is silly and impractical, but that does mean it should be mischaracterized.

I did read that pseudo-intellectual drivel. The point is that this racist drivel would not be tolerated had he argued to abolish the 'construct of the black race'.

I agree that it is pretty much drivel. But then, I find your opinions pretty much drivel And once again, you confuse your opinion with fact.

He'd be run out of academia. But anti-white racism is acceptable. Just look at #BLM Toronto and its overtly racist co-founder who is suffering no consequences for her racist statements.

More drivel/opinion masquerading as fact.

 

[Kusa]

Ripping a mother away from her two children because she came here illegally when she was fourteen is not only extremely hateful but downright evil.

The kids can go with her.

 

[Axulus]

Ripping a mother away from her two children because she came here illegally when she was fourteen is not only extremely hateful but downright evil.

The kids can go with her.

That's fucking ridiculous. They are in high school. They should not be forced to choose between separating from their mother and finishing up their education in the US or being transplanted to a foreign country they've never lived in and possibly struggle to finish their education.

 

[Kusa]

The kids can go with her.

That's fucking ridiculous. They are in high school. They should not be forced to choose between separating from their mother and finishing up their education in the US or being transplanted to a foreign country they've never lived in and possibly struggle to finish their education.

Because the mother is a criminal.

What about any other child that has a criminal for a parent? Should the parent not go to jail because the child doesn't like it?

 

[Harry Bosch]

That's fucking ridiculous. They are in high school. They should not be forced to choose between separating from their mother and finishing up their education in the US or being transplanted to a foreign country they've never lived in and possibly struggle to finish their education.

Because the mother is a criminal.

What about any other child that has a criminal for a parent? Should the parent not go to jail because the child doesn't like it?

So you want the child to suffer for the crime of the mother? Wow, pretty cold hearted.

 

[Kusa]

So you want the child to suffer for the crime of the mother? Wow, pretty cold hearted.

Children suffer all the time for their criminal parents.

So you think criminals should not be held accountable just because they have children? That's crazy.

 

[Axulus]

So you want the child to suffer for the crime of the mother? Wow, pretty cold hearted.

Children suffer all the time for their criminal parents.

So you think criminals should not be held accountable just because they have children? That's crazy.

She already did her time for the crime of working to feed, shelter and clothe her children. It was over 8 years ago for fucks sake.

 

[Kusa]

Children suffer all the time for their criminal parents.

So you think criminals should not be held accountable just because they have children? That's crazy.

She already did her time for the crime of working to feed, shelter and clothe her children. It was over 8 years ago for fucks sake.

Would you apply this nonsense to every other crime?

 

[Axulus]

She already did her time for the crime of working to feed, shelter and clothe her children. It was over 8 years ago for fucks sake.

Would you apply this nonsense to every other crime?

Yes, once you do your time you do not get an additional penalty. You should only get deported after serious crimes or if you did not come here as a kid and have no american kids yourself.

 

[Kusa]

Would you apply this nonsense to every other crime?

Yes, once you do your time you do not get an additional penalty. You should only get deported after serious crimes or if you did not come here as a kid and have no american kids yourself.

You will have to get the law changed if that's what you want. Until then she should be deported.