Impeachment derail from Democrats 2020

[zorq]

Who's sitting in the Oval office today, Killery or the Donald? And don't give me that bullshit about the been foiled by the college vote which was put in place by the Founding Fathers for obvious reason.

I don't know what reason you think was obvious, but the popular rumor that the US founders didn't trust the will of the people was not a prime motivating factor for the creation of the Electoral college. More founders/framers were in favor of a direct democratic vote than were opposed. Only Elbridge Gerry, Pierce Butler, and Charles Pinckney are on record as being opposed to direct popular vote. The big reason they eventually chose the electoral college was slavery. They needed to give the less populous slaveholding states some extra influence to uphold the Connecticut Compromise in a way that removed the selection of executive from the legislature.
Seeing as how slavery is no longer an issue and direct popular vote still removes the selection of executive from the legislature's hands... maybe the farmer's first instinct was best. It is certainly a more intuitively fair proposition from the perspective of a citizen voter.

 

[angelo]

Who's sitting in the Oval office today, Killery or the Donald? And don't give me that bullshit about the been foiled by the college vote which was put in place by the Founding Fathers for obvious reason.

I don't know what reason you think was obvious, but the popular rumor that the US founders didn't trust the will of the people was not a prime motivating factor for the creation of the Electoral college. More founders/framers were in favor of a direct democratic vote than were opposed. Only Elbridge Gerry, Pierce Butler, and Charles Pinckney are on record as being opposed to direct popular vote. The big reason they eventually chose the electoral college was slavery. They needed to give the less populous slaveholding states some extra influence to uphold the Connecticut Compromise in a way that removed the selection of executive from the legislature.
Seeing as how slavery is no longer an issue and direct popular vote still removes the selection of executive from the legislature's hands... maybe the farmer's first instinct was best. It is certainly a more intuitively fair proposition from the perspective of a citizen voter.

Time for a change then until a Democrat again wins the WH, then if by any chance the GOP win the popular vote but fail to get the WH, change it back again?

 

[zorq]

Who's sitting in the Oval office today, Killery or the Donald? And don't give me that bullshit about the been foiled by the college vote which was put in place by the Founding Fathers for obvious reason.

I don't know what reason you think was obvious, but the popular rumor that the US founders didn't trust the will of the people was not a prime motivating factor for the creation of the Electoral college. More founders/framers were in favor of a direct democratic vote than were opposed. Only Elbridge Gerry, Pierce Butler, and Charles Pinckney are on record as being opposed to direct popular vote. The big reason they eventually chose the electoral college was slavery. They needed to give the less populous slaveholding states some extra influence to uphold the Connecticut Compromise in a way that removed the selection of executive from the legislature.
Seeing as how slavery is no longer an issue and direct popular vote still removes the selection of executive from the legislature's hands... maybe the farmer's first instinct was best. It is certainly a more intuitively fair proposition from the perspective of a citizen voter.

Time for a change then until a Democrat again wins the WH, then if by any chance the GOP win the popular vote but fail to get the WH, change it back again?

You seem to be under the impression that liberals and leftists are only interested in fairness when it benefits them politically. But what if you are wrong? What if we genuinely believe in truth, justice, and democracy over and above political power?

What are the reasons you tell yourself when you think about why you support an unfair system where some people get more than three times as much voting power as others?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Then the busload of clown wannabees put their hands up, that in no way are capable of beating the incumbent in November, and you have a recipe for trying to foil the will of the people, both in 2016 and again in 2020.

You think 2016 was the will of the people?

Bless your heart.

Who's sitting in the Oval office today, Killery or the Donald? And don't give me that bullshit about the been foiled by the college vote which was put in place by the Founding Fathers for obvious reason.

The Electoral College was created to keep the people from electing a person like Donald Trump. There were several GOP delegations at the GOP Convention that tried to stop the Trump nomination.

 

[angelo]

Time for a change then until a Democrat again wins the WH, then if by any chance the GOP win the popular vote but fail to get the WH, change it back again?

You seem to be under the impression that liberals and leftists are only interested in fairness when it benefits them politically. But what if you are wrong? What if we genuinely believe in truth, justice, and democracy over and above political power?

What are the reasons you tell yourself when you think about why you support an unfair system where some people get more than three times as much voting power as others?

What if what you're saying is a load of baloney which it is! Leftists, and lately the Democratic party only see fairness through their own blinkered eyes and when it suits them? Anyone that doesn't see things as they perceive them to be, in their own image are the dregs of this world. You wouldn't know the meaning of democracy!

As this article makes clear. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15579/demonizing-defense-lawyers

 

[angelo]

Who's sitting in the Oval office today, Killery or the Donald? And don't give me that bullshit about the been foiled by the college vote which was put in place by the Founding Fathers for obvious reason.

The Electoral College was created to keep the people from electing a person like Donald Trump. There were several GOP delegations at the GOP Convention that tried to stop the Trump nomination.

Just like there are several [moderate?] Democratic delegations who are trying to stop the rabid anti semanticists and admitted rabid socialist Bernie Sanders?

 

[Patooka]

Who's sitting in the Oval office today, Killery or the Donald? And don't give me that bullshit about the been foiled by the college vote which was put in place by the Founding Fathers for obvious reason.

The Electoral College was created to keep the people from electing a person like Donald Trump. There were several GOP delegations at the GOP Convention that tried to stop the Trump nomination.

Just like there are several [moderate?] Democratic delegations who are trying to stop the rabid anti semanticists and admitted rabid socialist Bernie Sanders?

Anti-semanticists? This is the internet pal, we fucking thrive on pedantry! As for Bernie being a rabid socialist...well you must be really miserable living in Australia with our pensions, Medicare, 4 weeks annual leave and consumer protection laws. Sanders isn't promising anything more than every Australian politician has promised as a bear minimum in modern history.

 

[zorq]

Time for a change then until a Democrat again wins the WH, then if by any chance the GOP win the popular vote but fail to get the WH, change it back again?

You seem to be under the impression that liberals and leftists are only interested in fairness when it benefits them politically. But what if you are wrong? What if we genuinely believe in truth, justice, and democracy over and above political power?

What are the reasons you tell yourself when you think about why you support an unfair system where some people get more than three times as much voting power as others?

What if what you're saying is a load of baloney which it is! Leftists, and lately the Democratic party only see fairness through their own blinkered eyes and when it suits them? Anyone that doesn't see things as they perceive them to be, in their own image are the dregs of this world. You wouldn't know the meaning of democracy!

As this article makes clear. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15579/demonizing-defense-lawyers

You can offer no excuse for prefering an unfair, undemocratic system? ... Okay... We all see who REALLY craves power over justice.

So, lets talk about your link. Dershowitz says that corrupt motive combined with legal action isn't impeachable. ... Too bad it's illegal for Trump to block Ukraine's aid package huh? Trump deserved his impeachment. Your link doesn't exonerate Trump, and Dershowitz's whining isn't convincing.

 

[angelo]

Just like there are several [moderate?] Democratic delegations who are trying to stop the rabid anti semanticists and admitted rabid socialist Bernie Sanders?

Anti-semanticists? This is the internet pal, we fucking thrive on pedantry! As for Bernie being a rabid socialist...well you must be really miserable living in Australia with our pensions, Medicare, 4 weeks annual leave and consumer protection laws. Sanders isn't promising anything more than every Australian politician has promised as a bear minimum in modern history.

Except that besides Arthur Calwell, who thankfully Australian voters were too smart to ever elect, and to a lesser extent, but not by much, Whitlam. Marxism has never succeeded in Australia, and I doubt it will in the States come November. The only people who will most likely vote for the socialism espoused by the radical left of the Democratic party are under 35-40's who are too young to remember what socialism sid to the Soviet Union and Eastern European vassal states.

 

[angelo]

What if what you're saying is a load of baloney which it is! Leftists, and lately the Democratic party only see fairness through their own blinkered eyes and when it suits them? Anyone that doesn't see things as they perceive them to be, in their own image are the dregs of this world. You wouldn't know the meaning of democracy!

As this article makes clear. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15579/demonizing-defense-lawyers

You can offer no excuse for prefering an unfair, undemocratic system? ... Okay... We all see who REALLY craves power over justice.

So, lets talk about your link. Dershowitz says that corrupt motive combined with legal action isn't impeachable. ... Too bad it's illegal for Trump to block Ukraine's aid package huh? Trump deserved his impeachment. Your link doesn't exonerate Trump, and Dershowitz's whining isn't convincing.

There's just one tiny little problem with that assertion: it's a fake and just like the Russian collusion, a hoax!

 

[Patooka]

Just like there are several [moderate?] Democratic delegations who are trying to stop the rabid anti semanticists and admitted rabid socialist Bernie Sanders?

Anti-semanticists? This is the internet pal, we fucking thrive on pedantry! As for Bernie being a rabid socialist...well you must be really miserable living in Australia with our pensions, Medicare, 4 weeks annual leave and consumer protection laws. Sanders isn't promising anything more than every Australian politician has promised as a bear minimum in modern history.

Except that besides Arthur Calwell, who thankfully Australian voters were too smart to ever elect, and to a lesser extent, but not by much, Whitlam. Marxism has never succeeded in Australia, and I doubt it will in the States come November. The only people who will most likely vote for the socialism espoused by the radical left of the Democratic party are under 35-40's who are too young to remember what socialism sid to the Soviet Union and Eastern European vassal states.

This is the part where you show me a single platform Bernie is campaigning on that ScoMo didn't in the last election. You keep bleating "Socialism socialism socialism!" or smoke bomb a dubious link from a questionable source, but I have yet to see you provide any specific examples.

 

[angelo]

Except that besides Arthur Calwell, who thankfully Australian voters were too smart to ever elect, and to a lesser extent, but not by much, Whitlam. Marxism has never succeeded in Australia, and I doubt it will in the States come November. The only people who will most likely vote for the socialism espoused by the radical left of the Democratic party are under 35-40's who are too young to remember what socialism sid to the Soviet Union and Eastern European vassal states.

This is the part where you show me a single platform Bernie is campaigning on that ScoMo didn't in the last election. You keep bleating "Socialism socialism socialism!" or smoke bomb a dubious link from a questionable source, but I have yet to see you provide any specific examples.

Scomo appealed to the quite Australians who were scared out of their wits to electing a big government, high taxing Marxists ideology. The same thing will happen in the States come November. Besides, do you really think this motley bunch of clowns will put America first above and beyond what the anti American Democrats stand for?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/02/..._jihad_watch_daily_digest&utm_term=2020-02-13

 

[Patooka]

Except that besides Arthur Calwell, who thankfully Australian voters were too smart to ever elect, and to a lesser extent, but not by much, Whitlam. Marxism has never succeeded in Australia, and I doubt it will in the States come November. The only people who will most likely vote for the socialism espoused by the radical left of the Democratic party are under 35-40's who are too young to remember what socialism sid to the Soviet Union and Eastern European vassal states.

This is the part where you show me a single platform Bernie is campaigning on that ScoMo didn't in the last election. You keep bleating "Socialism socialism socialism!" or smoke bomb a dubious link from a questionable source, but I have yet to see you provide any specific examples.

Scomo appealed to the quite Australians who were scared out of their wits to electing a big government, high taxing Marxists ideology. The same thing will happen in the States come November. Besides, do you really think this motley bunch of clowns will put America first above and beyond what the anti American Democrats stand for?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/02/..._jihad_watch_daily_digest&utm_term=2020-02-13
I can't so I'm going to go off in a tangent instead

Fixed it for you. You're welcome. All you had to do was cite one piece of policy that Bernie Sanders has that Scott Morrison spoke against in the last election.

All you had to do.

One thing.

Just one fucking thing.

 

[angelo]

Scomo appealed to the quite Australians who were scared out of their wits to electing a big government, high taxing Marxists ideology. The same thing will happen in the States come November. Besides, do you really think this motley bunch of clowns will put America first above and beyond what the anti American Democrats stand for?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/02/..._jihad_watch_daily_digest&utm_term=2020-02-13
I can't so I'm going to go off in a tangent instead

Fixed it for you. You're welcome. All you had to do was cite one piece of policy that Bernie Sanders has that Scott Morrison spoke against in the last election.

All you had to do.

One thing.

Just one fucking thing.

I simply refuse to join the Dem love fest here.

 

[Patooka]

Scomo appealed to the quite Australians who were scared out of their wits to electing a big government, high taxing Marxists ideology. The same thing will happen in the States come November. Besides, do you really think this motley bunch of clowns will put America first above and beyond what the anti American Democrats stand for?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/02/..._jihad_watch_daily_digest&utm_term=2020-02-13
I can't so I'm going to go off in a tangent instead

Fixed it for you. You're welcome. All you had to do was cite one piece of policy that Bernie Sanders has that Scott Morrison spoke against in the last election.

All you had to do.

One thing.

Just one fucking thing.

I simply refuse to join the Dem love fest here.

All I asked was if you could name one policy that Bernie Sanders has that isn't part of the Australian Liberal Party platform. That fact that you keep calling him a marxist or a fringe socialist or rabid leftist means it should be easy for you.

 

[angelo]

I simply refuse to join the Dem love fest here.

All I asked was if you could name one policy that Bernie Sanders has that isn't part of the Australian Liberal Party platform. That fact that you keep calling him a marxist or a fringe socialist or rabid leftist means it should be easy for you.

You must be out of your goddamn mind if you think Australia's Liberal party [ Australia's conservative party, or the equivalent of the GOP] and the anti Semitic, pro milking corporations and high earners out of most [in some cases ALL] of their earnings, pro illegal immigration, anti resources development Marxists Sanders have anything in common with the Libs. Why, the Bern is even far more leftist than even Australia's loony Greens, not to mention the Labor party.

 

[Patooka]

I simply refuse to join the Dem love fest here.

All I asked was if you could name one policy that Bernie Sanders has that isn't part of the Australian Liberal Party platform. That fact that you keep calling him a marxist or a fringe socialist or rabid leftist means it should be easy for you.

You must be out of your goddamn mind if you think Australia's Liberal party [ Australia's conservative party, or the equivalent of the GOP] and the anti Semitic, pro milking corporations and high earners out of most [in some cases ALL] of their earnings, pro illegal immigration, anti resources development Marxists Sanders have anything in common with the Libs. Why, the Bern is even far more leftist than even Australia's loony Greens, not to mention the Labor party.

So, you can't provide an example then? Do you even understand what I am asking you? I suppose I have to make it really simple.

Health Care
Show more one thing Bernie is campaigning for that isn't part of Greg Hunt's portfolio. If Sanders is such a loon, this should be easy. Seeing as this is the fourth time I've asked you and you've deflected every fucking time, it's pretty apparent Bernie isn't the loon you claim he is and that you're pretty ignorant on what you're talking about.

 

[angelo]

You must be out of your goddamn mind if you think Australia's Liberal party [ Australia's conservative party, or the equivalent of the GOP] and the anti Semitic, pro milking corporations and high earners out of most [in some cases ALL] of their earnings, pro illegal immigration, anti resources development Marxists Sanders have anything in common with the Libs. Why, the Bern is even far more leftist than even Australia's loony Greens, not to mention the Labor party.

So, you can't provide an example then? Do you even understand what I am asking you? I suppose I have to make it really simple.

Health Care
Show more one thing Bernie is campaigning for that isn't part of Greg Hunt's portfolio. If Sanders is such a loon, this should be easy. Seeing as this is the fourth time I've asked you and you've deflected every fucking time, it's pretty apparent Bernie isn't the loon you claim he is and that you're pretty ignorant on what you're talking about.

Universal health care the senile old lunatic is espousing is like cheese and chalk compared to Australia's Medicare, which is a mixture of public and private healthcare. Also, Australian employees are paying a Medicare levy out of their salaries, which partly covers the cost of the scheme. But only the Looney tunes Greens party here are anywhere near the Marxism ideology as it's espoused by the lunatic, Corbynist Sanders. And we're all aware how his dear comrade in the UK fared aren't we!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You must be out of your goddamn mind if you think Australia's Liberal party [ Australia's conservative party, or the equivalent of the GOP] and the anti Semitic, pro milking corporations and high earners out of most [in some cases ALL] of their earnings, pro illegal immigration, anti resources development Marxists Sanders have anything in common with the Libs. Why, the Bern is even far more leftist than even Australia's loony Greens, not to mention the Labor party.

So, you can't provide an example then? Do you even understand what I am asking you? I suppose I have to make it really simple.

Health Care
Show more one thing Bernie is campaigning for that isn't part of Greg Hunt's portfolio. If Sanders is such a loon, this should be easy. Seeing as this is the fourth time I've asked you and you've deflected every fucking time, it's pretty apparent Bernie isn't the loon you claim he is and that you're pretty ignorant on what you're talking about.

Universal health care the senile old lunatic is espousing is like cheese and chalk compared to Australia's Medicare, which is a mixture of public and private healthcare.

You mean like America's Medicare?

Also, Australian employees are paying a Medicare levy out of their salaries, which partly covers the cost of the scheme.

You mean like Americans?

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

 

[Patooka]

Universal health care the senile old lunatic is espousing is like cheese and chalk compared to Australia's Medicare, which is a mixture of public and private healthcare.

You mean like America's Medicare?

Also, Australian employees are paying a Medicare levy out of their salaries, which partly covers the cost of the scheme.

You mean like Americans?

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

No, he doesn't. His name calling is pretty uncreative as well.