Ford
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That said, even as an outsider I know a lot of these "deaths" aren't permanent. In fact I'd hazard a guess that everyone killed by Thanos activating his super wrist watch 'o death is going to come back. Loki? Gamora? Vision? Not so much.
I don't know about that. The director has already said that Gamora is going to be the focus of Guardians 3 and after all the complaints of their movies focusing on white males, I can't see them having one of their first black female major characters (Valkyrie) dying offscreen and never being mentioned again, so I'm guessing the Asgardians get reset to where they were at the end of Ragnarok. Also, with all the stuff about Vision's brain being linked to the Mind Stone, I imagine he's going to be playing the Adam Warlock role in the next one and grabbing the Infinity Gauntlet from within.
The deaths not being permanent doesn't make them less impactful within the context of the film itself, but everyone is coming back.
I do think deaths not being permanent does kind of make them not so impactful.
I mean, what if in Top Gun Goose showed up right before the showdown with the Mig 28s and was like "hey, I didn't die...just got banged up a bit and I'm ready to be your RIO again, Mav!"
Sure, keeping the franchise going is a concern, but it seems (to me) that a lot of movies nowadays are cheapening the deaths of characters by making them obviously less than permanent. Or even death. Take Thor's bit in this movie where he was supposed to get the neutron star thing working again and the guy from Game of Thrones was like "you're going to die!"
No he's not. We all know he's not. He's Thor. Then once he gets the axe he becomes a deus ex machina and flies instantly to the battlefield on Earth (Battlefield Earth?) where he starts kicking ass because he's literally a god.
Then at the end everyone dies (and I'm okay with this) but there's no consequences, because we all know that most of them..maybe all...are coming back. The fact that they're all not really dead takes the dramatic wind out of their deaths. And they've done this over and over. Bucky's death in Captain America was like "wow, they killed Bucky?" Then he came back. Then in the next movie they killed off Sam Jackson. Oh wait...they didn't.