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Intrasexual Competition

Trausti

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1939 Gallup Poll

Men are much more likely to be OK with women going topless

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It's likely that a lot of what is deemed sexism is really just female intrasexual competition. Like attacks on beauty pageants. Unattractive women want to punish attractive women. Or women want to prevent their man from putting his eyes on other women.
 
gallupshorts.jpg


1939 Gallup Poll

Men are much more likely to be OK with women going topless

topless5.jpg


It's likely that a lot of what is deemed sexism is really just female intrasexual competition. Like attacks on beauty pageants. Unattractive women want to punish attractive women. Or women want to prevent their man from putting his eyes on other women.

Yep. Next on the chopping block....Cheerleaders.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/nancy-armour/2018/04/18/nfl-cheerleaders-gender-discrimination-metoo-movement/527491002/

The underlying premise of NFL cheerleaders is degrading, presenting women as nothing more than objects to be leered at. With skimpy, suggestive outfits as their “uniform,” their only purpose is to titillate.

It’s always been an appalling message to send and, in this #MeToo era, there’s no longer any place for it. NFL cheerleaders need to go. NBA dance squads and NHL ice girls while we’re at it, too.
 
Yep. Next on the chopping block....Cheerleaders.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/nancy-armour/2018/04/18/nfl-cheerleaders-gender-discrimination-metoo-movement/527491002/

The underlying premise of NFL cheerleaders is degrading, presenting women as nothing more than objects to be leered at. With skimpy, suggestive outfits as their “uniform,” their only purpose is to titillate.

It’s always been an appalling message to send and, in this #MeToo era, there’s no longer any place for it. NFL cheerleaders need to go. NBA dance squads and NHL ice girls while we’re at it, too.

LOL. Women must be liberated to make their own choices - so long they chose the way feminists tell them to chose. How dare attractive women be attractive!
 
The whole thread is a false dichotomy implying that either women are chastised by other women out of sexual competition or their is sexism, when in fact both can be and are true.

Yes, there are women who use the cover of feminism to shame other women for getting attention for their beauty and sexuality. Sadly they are strange bedfellows with sexist patriarchs whose desire to control female sexuality in ways that range from creating religions that advocate killing women for doing anything that might titillate a man to the kind of aggressive control of sexuality that many (if not most) fathers advocate over their daughters but almost never their sons.

Also, sexism doesn't just take the form of repressing female sexuality, it does just the opposite as well, namely coerce women into constantly emphasizing their sexuality. The common sexist thread is that men and women are not treated the same, such that in any given context female sexuality is either being repressed more than males or only the sexuality of females is expected to be on display, such as with the Jennifer Lawrence photo where predictably all the men are fully clothed with heavy coats and boots on cold day and the only female is in open toes heels and dress that is cut up to her vagina and down below her breasts.

Yes, she is beautiful and appreciating female beauty is not sexist. But despite being an excellent actress, she had to be beautiful and display her sexuality in order to make a career of acting, and is expected to keep displaying her sexuality despite already being established. In contrast, her unattractive (at least 3 of 4 of them) male costars are almost never exposing their bodies either in their films or press promotions. Not only is attractiveness less of a requirement for male actors, but even the "hot" ones are far less often required to be in revealing outfits in their roles.

IOW, women are far more judged and treated based upon their whether their sexuality conforms to others desires and expectations, sometimes by others' desire to deny and repress female sexuality and sometime by others' desire to treat female sexuality as the sole valued characteristic of women.

All that said, the underlying cause of this is not simply some misogynists conspiracy against women. I suspect much of it comes from the fact that female sexuality is just objectively more valued. The fact that the procreative power of females is much much more scarce is part of it. Another factor is that men tend to be more readily aroused by simple visual stimuli, and are generally more aroused more often. This would mean that women would get rewarded more by male responses to their sexual displays than the reverse. Also, there is evidence that most heterosexual women are physically aroused as much by the female form as the male form, even though they claim otherwise. In contrast, hetero males are almost exclusively aroused by females. IOW, everyone but gay men agrees that women are hot, which means there are twice as many people on the planted who enjoy seeing the female form than the male form.
This partly explains why there are way more female bisexuals than male bisexuals.

But note that just because much of this cultural "sexism" has roots in biological reality doesn't mean that it isn't something that puts harmful coercive pressure on women or that their is nothing we can or should do to ameliorate those effects.
 

And men, really do violently hate women, especially the women they pretend to love. Do you really need me to trot out the stats showing how much more often men specifically target women for violence versus how often women target men?
And while men mostly engage in violence against other men, the vast majority of those are in the context of the other male either being a perceived threat or in the context of committing other crimes. In contrast, the widespread violence against women in mostly due the victim being targeted as a women who poses no threat, and with the beating and/or raping of the women being the sole purpose of the encounter. IOW, the violence against women is fueled by gender targeting hatred, while the male violence against men in fueled by other motives not specific to the victims gender.

Not to mention the violently misogynist religions that dominate the world (Christainity, Judasim, and Islam) were all created and violently promoted almost entirely by males.

And all the customs that promote the domestic violence your study focusses on were mostly created and violently enforced by male authorities. All the results of your study show is that after centuries of being beaten and killed into submission and for not abiding by these male created rules, today's women are more likely to say they endorse these customs than men, who won't get beaten for saying they disagree with the customs.

Yes, there is some degree of likely natural infighting, jealousy, and politically motivated scapegoating of women by other women.
But, if you think that most women would freely endorse the ideas that they themselves deserve to be beaten and killed if they engage in the same acts their husbands can engage in whenever they want, then you know nothing about human beings. Their endorsement of these customs is very clearly the result of centuries of violent coercion by males.
 
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