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Investigation Launched After Cop Punches Teen Girl At Pride Fest

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A Pittsburgh police officer has been placed on administrative duty pending an investigation after he was caught on video punching a teenage girl who had been confronting Christian protesters during the city's gay pride event.
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That police officer should have been suspended for punching like a girl.
 
Obviously this was a justified use of force.[/conservoprogressive]

What, a fully grown, well trained, well armed, muscular cop with backup readily available cannot handle a teenage girl without resorting to violence? Good grief
 
Well trained? The guy threw at least three punches and couldn't even get a teenage girl onto the ground.
 
I'm sure everyone at the department is already talking about how well trained he is. As soon as a public statement will be released it will include phrases such as "procedures were followed" and gibberish about how the department takes training of the officers seriously.
 
I can hear the police locker room now, "Hey Johnson! You can't even put a teenage girl onto the ground? loooooooooooooooooooooooool!"
 
A part of my job for about 40 years was handling casualty claims for insurance companies that insured various police departments.

I've got about 40 pages of war stories that I could repeat:

Cops running a burglary ring out of their patrol cars.
Probation officer hitting on convict for sex.
Cops robbing suspects.
Cops having sex with suspects wife while testify against the suspect.
Cops who killed a suspect in part because the address on a search warrant was the wrong address.
On and on....................................
 
Insufficient data. Note how--like almost always--the clip starts when the cop is using force. We almost never see the event that caused the cop to use force.
 
Yeah cause we should all assume he had a good reason. That a "good reason" exists for this kind of thing.

let's brainstorm a bit. What would make this reasonable?
 
Government is the things we choose to do together, and that cop is government therefor punching that girl is something we chose to do together.[/conservoprogressive]
 
Insufficient data. Note how--like almost always--the clip starts when the cop is using force. We almost never see the event that caused the cop to use force.

If you go to the full You Tube video ( as I did this morning) you will see the entire incident from entirely too long before the cop started throwing punches. The cop claims the girl "attacked" the preacher. The video shows that not even that is true.
 
Insufficient data. Note how--like almost always--the clip starts when the cop is using force. We almost never see the event that caused the cop to use force.

Not surprised loren is defending a police beating of a teenaged girl.
 
Hey, why didn't the christian guys defend the helpless girl?
 
Yeah cause we should all assume he had a good reason. That a "good reason" exists for this kind of thing.

let's brainstorm a bit. What would make this reasonable?

She attacked first.
 
Insufficient data. Note how--like almost always--the clip starts when the cop is using force. We almost never see the event that caused the cop to use force.

Here is the lead up to it


That makes it clear that it was part of a previous altercation, she appears to be resisting what the cop wants. The camera didn't catch the start of the incident, though.

You physically resist an arrest attempt and you should expect that sort of treatment. I don't know that it's an arrest attempt but it's certainly consistent with one.

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Insufficient data. Note how--like almost always--the clip starts when the cop is using force. We almost never see the event that caused the cop to use force.

Not surprised loren is defending a police beating of a teenaged girl.

I'm saying it's unconfirmed, not that it's certainly in the right. Both videos shown aren't enough to prove wrongdoing.
 
Resisting what the cop wants? Loren, we aren't required to be obedient little serfs that must tug our forelock at the cops.

Then again, I'm as predisposed to never believe cops as judges are predisposed to always believe them.
 
Insufficient data. Note how--like almost always--the clip starts when the cop is using force. We almost never see the event that caused the cop to use force.

Here is the lead up to it


That makes it clear that it was part of a previous altercation, she appears to be resisting what the cop wants. The camera didn't catch the start of the incident, though.

You physically resist an arrest attempt and you should expect that sort of treatment. I don't know that it's an arrest attempt but it's certainly consistent with one.

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Insufficient data. Note how--like almost always--the clip starts when the cop is using force. We almost never see the event that caused the cop to use force.

Not surprised loren is defending a police beating of a teenaged girl.

I'm saying it's unconfirmed, not that it's certainly in the right. Both videos shown aren't enough to prove wrongdoing.


Bullshit.

Here's the timeline from the video.

Pre-3:03 - the girl does something arrest-worthy?
3:03 - the cop walks in front of the camera
3:04 - a guy (the christian protester in the orange shirt) points and yells "she needs to be arrested".
3:05 - the cop reaches the girl
3:05 - the cop is already shoving her by the neck.
3:08 - the cop throws his first punch.
3:10 - the girl is on the ground.
3:12 - she's back on her feet with the cop pulling her hair
3:14 - punch, punch, punch
3:25 - cop yells at the crowd to "get out of here"
3:36 - she's put in handcuffs

The cop goes straight to force. You never hear him tell her she is under arrest, even though they were only a few feet from the camera at the start. He shoves her back immediately and then begins punching. At one point she's on the the ground, and he either lets her get up or, worse, pulls her up by the hair, and then punches her some more.
 
You physically resist an arrest attempt and you should expect that sort of treatment. I don't know that it's an arrest attempt but it's certainly consistent with one.

Physically resisting an arrest attempt means you should expect to be repeatedly punched in the gut? What's wrong with you? Do you really imagine she could have resisted in a way that justifies that?
 
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