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Is censorship moral?

The OP hasn't responded to any of my last several posts.
I can think of two possibilities.

1) He can't even explain what he's arguing, much less win the argument.

2) He's censoring himself by putting me on <ignore> so he doesn't have to notice 1).

Maybe there's another explanation. Feel free.
Tom
 
Isn't it obvious that I am one amazing dude who can defeat all comers in any debate?

Your tendency to turn huge, complex, moral issues into personal, "it's about me", doesn't look particularly well adjusted.

This doesn't look well adjusted either:
Laws against child pornography are based more on politics and public sentiment than evidence that they actually protect kids from sexual assault.
 
Isn't it obvious that I am one amazing dude who can defeat all comers in any debate?

Your tendency to turn huge, complex, moral issues into personal, "it's about me", doesn't look particularly well adjusted.
Tom
You're taking that quotation of mine out of context. I was answering why I think I'm well adjusted despite seeing all those supposedly harmful images DBT wants to censor.

So adjust the accuracy of what you post, please.
 
So adjust the accuracy of what you post, please.
Explain precisely what you mean by censorship in this context, please.
And how you've been harmed by it, please.

Stop talking about yourself, and making this all about you.
Please.
Tom
 
This doesn't look well adjusted either:
Laws against child pornography are based more on politics and public sentiment than evidence that they actually protect kids from sexual assault.
It's a good idea to stick with the issues and not attack those who debate the issues in good faith. Am I wrong about the porn laws being ineffective aside from politicians getting elected by pacifying the voters?
 
So adjust the accuracy of what you post, please.
Explain precisely what you mean by censorship in this context, please.
And how you've been harmed by it, please.
I'm hesitating to respond to that because it appears to be a trap.
Stop talking about yourself, and making this all about you.
Please.
Tom
I don't need to talk about myself because you keep doing that for me.
 
I don't need to talk about myself because you keep doing that for me.

But you continue to do it. I'm trying to understand why.
I'm hesitating to respond to that because it appears to be a trap.
It definitely would be if you were trying to promote something illegal like kiddie porno.
I'm really really judgemental about certain things people do on the internet.
Tom
 
This doesn't look well adjusted either:
Laws against child pornography are based more on politics and public sentiment than evidence that they actually protect kids from sexual assault.
It's a good idea to stick with the issues and not attack those who debate the issues in good faith.

Then stop doing it.

Am I wrong about the porn laws being ineffective aside from politicians getting elected by pacifying the voters?
What's your evidence? I hope it's statistical and peer-reviewed, not some other personal anecdote.
 
In Australia at the moment we are in the midst of a public debate about gambling ads on TV, radio etc.
These ads are appearing during daylight hours i.e. when children are watching them.
Many children can now tell you the odds about certain events happening, or not. Too many kids are very serious about this rather than just realising it is just a game and so on.
We banned cigarette ads decades ago because of the realisation that such ads normalised and encouraged smoking. (And before somebody chips in with the note that smoking has not ceased. Yes it has not ceased. The aim was, and is, to decrease the amount of smoking and produce a social stigma. If it disappears few will lament its passing.).
Exactly the same reasoning applies to gambling ads. It will only encourage and normalise this speculative and non- productive behaivour.
 
We banned cigarette ads decades ago because of the realisation that such ads normalised and encouraged smoking.
That's an interesting point. I used to be a graphic designer, and I learned that designing an ad or any other graphic meant for public viewing is very tricky business. People generally ignore ads and do not respond to them by buying the product promoted. But of course an effective ad can increase sales and no doubt many cigarette ads do increase the sales and consumption of some brands of cigarettes. Anyway, here we are years after the censorship of cigarette ads, and people still smoke and get sick from smoking. Yes, the problem is not as bad as it used to be, but to credit censorship is not necessarily fair because other factors may have achieved the progress.
 
Am I wrong about the porn laws being ineffective aside from politicians getting elected by pacifying the voters?
What's your evidence? I hope it's statistical and peer-reviewed, not some other personal anecdote.
Why are you asking for that evidence?
You made a claim of fact:
Laws against child pornography are based more on politics and public sentiment than evidence that they actually protect kids from sexual assault.

If it actually isn't a fact and just your opinion, say so.
 
Am I wrong about the porn laws being ineffective aside from politicians getting elected by pacifying the voters?
What's your evidence? I hope it's statistical and peer-reviewed, not some other personal anecdote.
Why are you asking for that evidence?
You made a claim of fact:
Laws against child pornography are based more on politics and public sentiment than evidence that they actually protect kids from sexual assault.

If it actually isn't a fact and just your opinion, say so.
Why do you want me to say that?
 
Isn't it obvious that I am one amazing dude who can defeat all comers in any debate?

Your tendency to turn huge, complex, moral issues into personal, "it's about me", doesn't look particularly well adjusted.

This doesn't look well adjusted either:
Laws against child pornography are based more on politics and public sentiment than evidence that they actually protect kids from sexual assault.
Aren't most laws based on public sentiment?
 
We banned cigarette ads decades ago because of the realisation that such ads normalised and encouraged smoking.
That's an interesting point. I used to be a graphic designer, and I learned that designing an ad or any other graphic meant for public viewing is very tricky business. People generally ignore ads and do not respond to them by buying the product promoted. But of course an effective ad can increase sales and no doubt many cigarette ads do increase the sales and consumption of some brands of cigarettes. Anyway, here we are years after the censorship of cigarette ads, and people still smoke and get sick from smoking. Yes, the problem is not as bad as it used to be, but to credit censorship is not necessarily fair because other factors may have achieved the progress.
And with that, I've got to wonder why anyone is trying to change Unknown Soldier's mind, because clearly, it ain't happening.

Though I've got to wonder why they want to censor information on suicide.
 
We banned cigarette ads decades ago because of the realisation that such ads normalised and encouraged smoking.
That's an interesting point. I used to be a graphic designer, and I learned that designing an ad or any other graphic meant for public viewing is very tricky business. People generally ignore ads and do not respond to them by buying the product promoted. But of course an effective ad can increase sales and no doubt many cigarette ads do increase the sales and consumption of some brands of cigarettes. Anyway, here we are years after the censorship of cigarette ads, and people still smoke and get sick from smoking. Yes, the problem is not as bad as it used to be, but to credit censorship is not necessarily fair because other factors may have achieved the progress.
And with that, I've got to wonder why anyone is trying to change Unknown Soldier's mind, because clearly, it ain't happening.
My arguments are just too good for that. Try to argue logically based on the facts, and you'll have the success I do.
Though I've got to wonder why they want to censor information on suicide.
Who wants to censor information on suicide? I was censored getting information out on suicide. When that happens, lives are lost.
 
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