It's not about protecting children

[Loren Pechtel]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

But what happens when the gender they are presenting as doesn't match their birth gender?

They do their job.

Without causing problems based on their preferences of clothing.

This isn't difficult.
Tom

And if they go along they're outed as trans and perhaps look rather inappropriate due to top surgery.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The supreme court has already ruled that the equal protection of the laws bars discrimination on the basis of "sex". So if "a dress and heels" is acceptable attire, it ought acceptable attire for anyone.

If hooters has a problem with their male employees wearing tank tops and cutoffs... God that would be fucking hilarious.

Actually, I wouldn't mind Hooters objecting to this. I'm pretty liberal about allowing themed businesses to "discriminate" in favor of those matching the theme. It's a self-limiting issue (no themed business will have anything like as many customer-facing employees as customers), there's no way it can be big enough to matter to those being "discriminated" against.

 

[Toni]

Waiting for DeSantis to notice that our division has a DEI initiative and that one of our best social scientists is non-binary. We have dress code about appropriate field and lab attire, fragrance in the office, and length of shorts. But gender falls nowhere in the code.

Pretty much the same for my lab except no skirts and pants had to reach ankles. Also women were expected to wear bras, although I’m guessing that it was pretty easy to sidestep this if you were small busted, young and always wore a lab coat.

 

[Playball40]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

No, it's not. If you do your job and are not public facing, you're attire should be yours and yours alone. My boss does not own me.

 

[Jarhyn]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

No, it's not. If you do your job and are not public facing, you're attire should be yours and yours alone. My boss does not own me.

Even if you are public facing, you should be allowed to wear whatever uniforms are standard to the position.

Of course this does give hooters an "out" insofar as requiring a specific uniform for servers and waiters. It also provides access to less demeaning clothing for managers across the board.

 

[Rhea]

We have dress code about appropriate field and lab attire, fragrance in the office, and length of shorts.

I want this!!!!! I love perfumes, some of the fragrances are so nice…. BUT 20% of the population has adverse health reactions like migraines, asthma and rashes. And for me breathing is much more important than enjoying your fragrance.

 

[Jarhyn]

We have dress code about appropriate field and lab attire, fragrance in the office, and length of shorts.

I want this!!!!! I love perfumes, some of the fragrances are so nice…. BUT 20% of the population has adverse health reactions like migraines, asthma and rashes. And for me breathing is much more important than enjoying your fragrance.

Of all the publicly casually noxious behavior I have encountered, smearing smelly hand creams on public transit has got to be the worst I have encountered, short of catcalling.

 

[Rhea]

We have dress code about appropriate field and lab attire, fragrance in the office, and length of shorts.

I want this!!!!! I love perfumes, some of the fragrances are so nice…. BUT 20% of the population has adverse health reactions like migraines, asthma and rashes. And for me breathing is much more important than enjoying your fragrance.

Of all the publicly casually noxious behavior I have encountered, smearing smelly hand creams on public transit has got to be the worst I have encountered, short of catcalling.

I was recently on a long plane flight and the airline was handing out scented hand sanitizer as people boarded the plane. They got an ALL CAPS feedback note from me. Gawd. It was hell.

 

[Jarhyn]

We have dress code about appropriate field and lab attire, fragrance in the office, and length of shorts.

I want this!!!!! I love perfumes, some of the fragrances are so nice…. BUT 20% of the population has adverse health reactions like migraines, asthma and rashes. And for me breathing is much more important than enjoying your fragrance.

Of all the publicly casually noxious behavior I have encountered, smearing smelly hand creams on public transit has got to be the worst I have encountered, short of catcalling.

I was recently on a long plane flight and the airline was handing out scented hand sanitizer as people boarded the plane. They got an ALL CAPS feedback note from me. Gawd. It was hell.

The strawberry and cherry shit makes my throat close up with asthma. It's one of the only things that makes that happen to me. That and heavy popcorn scent.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

We have dress code about appropriate field and lab attire, fragrance in the office, and length of shorts.

I want this!!!!! I love perfumes, some of the fragrances are so nice…. BUT 20% of the population has adverse health reactions like migraines, asthma and rashes. And for me breathing is much more important than enjoying your fragrance.

Of all the publicly casually noxious behavior I have encountered, smearing smelly hand creams on public transit has got to be the worst I have encountered, short of catcalling.

I was recently on a long plane flight and the airline was handing out scented hand sanitizer as people boarded the plane. They got an ALL CAPS feedback note from me. Gawd. It was hell.

BTW, the pandemic has taught me that respirators (N95 and the like) give a lot of protection from reacting to scents even if I can still smell them. I no longer fear the scented candle area.

 

[Rhea]

When I was in Korea recently, they remarked that a lot of people found they really helped mitigate bad air pollution (PM2.5) days, and so were still wearing them.

 

[scombrid]

We have dress code about appropriate field and lab attire, fragrance in the office, and length of shorts.

I want this!!!!! I love perfumes, some of the fragrances are so nice…. BUT 20% of the population has adverse health reactions like migraines, asthma and rashes. And for me breathing is much more important than enjoying your fragrance.

It's a good thing for sure. About once or twice a year HR sends out the "quit stinking up the building; be respectful of other peoples' respiratory sensitivities" mass email and for the most part it works.

 

[southernhybrid]

Texas agency threatens to fire staff who don't dress 'consistent with their biological gender'

The Texas Department of Agriculture sent employees a new dress code last week. It says that staff must dress "consistent with their biological gender,

www.cnn59.com

Texas joins the witch hunt going after adult transgender people: The Department of Agriculture is requiring employees to dress according to their biology.

I wonder if they would allow DeSantis to wear his white go-go boots to work. They certainly look girly girl.

Have everyone wear scrubs to work like they do in hospitals. That way, nobody would be entertained by the way others dress.