It's not about protecting children

[Loren Pechtel]

Texas agency threatens to fire staff who don't dress 'consistent with their biological gender'

The Texas Department of Agriculture sent employees a new dress code last week. It says that staff must dress "consistent with their biological gender,

www.cnn59.com

Texas joins the witch hunt going after adult transgender people: The Department of Agriculture is requiring employees to dress according to their biology.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Then wear a furry costumn.

 

[starwater]

Cancel culture by a different name.

 

[TomC]

Texas joins the witch hunt going after adult transgender people: The Department of Agriculture is requiring employees to dress according to their biology.

Joins? I kinda thought Texas would be leading the hunt.

But that said, all I see is a memo expecting employees to wear clothes, at work, that aren't an issue in and of themselves. An issue that impacts job performance. Nothing about what you wear on your own time or anything like that.
I don't see a problem with anything there.
Tom

 

[Jarhyn]

Texas joins the witch hunt going after adult transgender people: The Department of Agriculture is requiring employees to dress according to their biology.

Joins? I kinda thought Texas would be leading the hunt.

But that said, all I see is a memo expecting employees to wear clothes, at work, that aren't an issue in and of themselves. An issue that impacts job performance. Nothing about what you wear on your own time or anything like that.
I don't see a problem with anything there.
Tom

It's passing a rule that legalizes discrimination and revokes equal protection of the laws on the basis of sex.

If one person is allowed to wear a dress ALL person's must be allowed to wear a dress. If one person is allowed to wear a suit, ALL person's must be allowed to wear a suit.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Texas joins the witch hunt going after adult transgender people: The Department of Agriculture is requiring employees to dress according to their biology.

Joins? I kinda thought Texas would be leading the hunt.

But that said, all I see is a memo expecting employees to wear clothes, at work, that aren't an issue in and of themselves. An issue that impacts job performance. Nothing about what you wear on your own time or anything like that.
I don't see a problem with anything there.
Tom

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology. Thus trans individuals must wear clothes appropriate to their birth gender. I also think this runs afoul of medical privacy.

And it's not leading because one state has already prohibited gender-affirming medical care for adults (in other words, the hormone replacement they've been using.) Thus Texas is not the first out of the starting gate.

 

[Ford]

Texas joins the witch hunt going after adult transgender people: The Department of Agriculture is requiring employees to dress according to their biology.

Joins? I kinda thought Texas would be leading the hunt.

But that said, all I see is a memo expecting employees to wear clothes, at work, that aren't an issue in and of themselves. An issue that impacts job performance. Nothing about what you wear on your own time or anything like that.
I don't see a problem with anything there.
Tom

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology. Thus trans individuals must wear clothes appropriate to their birth gender. I also think this runs afoul of medical privacy.

Jeez...where to begin? What are "clothes that match their biology" in the first place? I dunno about y'all, but I have Scottish heritage. One of the most moving live musical performances I ever saw was the pipes and drums of the Black Watch....a bunch of guys in what some Republicans would call skirts. Big, beefy men in kilts who served in the Falklands War.

What counts as clothing that matches birth gender? Will a male student be sent home for wearing a pink shirt? Will a female student be suspended for wearing blue? Are pants banned for girls? Makeup for boys? Will there be a dress code for hair length, and what constitutes too short for girls and too long for boys?

And of course, how does the school determine what the gender is underneath that kilt or pair of slacks?

They've already answered. Genital inspection. School officials "inspecting" the "nether regions" of children. Side note, Larry Nasser is not going to be released from prison until at the earliest 2068 for "inspecting the genitals" of his victims.

We've found the groomers, folks.

 

[zorq]

"It's not about protecting children."

 

[Jarhyn]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology. Thus trans individuals must wear clothes appropriate to their birth gender.

So, everyone should be naked all the time?

Right? Since clothes have nothing to do with biology, and didn't even exist until WAY after gender evolved...

 

[TomC]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

 

[Loren Pechtel]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

But what happens when the gender they are presenting as doesn't match their birth gender?

 

[TomC]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

But what happens when the gender they are presenting as doesn't match their birth gender?

They do their job.

Without causing problems based on their preferences of clothing.

This isn't difficult.
Tom

 

[Jarhyn]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

Lol no. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and the equal protection of the laws means that if clothing is offered as a part of a dress code, it must be accessible to folks regardless of sex.

The supreme court has already ruled that the equal protection of the laws bars discrimination on the basis of "sex". So if "a dress and heels" is acceptable attire, it ought acceptable attire for anyone.

If hooters has a problem with their male employees wearing tank tops and cutoffs... God that would be fucking hilarious.

 

[Derec]

Texas agency threatens to fire staff who don't dress 'consistent with their biological gender'

The Texas Department of Agriculture sent employees a new dress code last week. It says that staff must dress "consistent with their biological gender,

www.cnn59.com

Texas joins the witch hunt going after adult transgender people: The Department of Agriculture is requiring employees to dress according to their biology.

Of course it's not.
I for one have no problem with individuals who are trans. But I think some of the things the activists on the far left were pushing, like biological men in women's sports, or this idea that everybody has to declare their pronouns went too far.
And that induced backlash that is similarly going way too far.

 

[Derec]

Cancel culture by a different name.

It kinda is. Pox on both their houses I think.

 

[Derec]

If hooters has a problem with their male employees wearing tank tops and cutoffs... God that would be fucking hilarious.

I think reasonable exception should be made in cases like that.
This is where the left loses it, even when I agree with y'all on principle. Banning a trans-woman or a trans-man to wear a dress or a suit in an office is one thing, and we can all agree that is wrong. As is banning hormone treatments and top/bottom surgeries for adults (and I would argue, for teenagers as well). But you have to overreach with silly demands like this one.

 

[laughing dog]

I thought Uvalde already proved that Texas does not care about protecting children.

 

[Bomb#20]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

And your boss's workplace behavior is Congress's business. This law will be held to be a violation of federal civil rights law, based on the SCOTUS's Bostock ruling.

 

[TV and credit cards]

They are expecting them to wear clothes that match their biology.

At work!
What we're talking about here is just part of a code for professional conduct on the job. Your personal life is your own business, but work place behavior is your bosses' business.
Tom

And your boss's workplace behavior is Congress's business. This law will be held to be a violation of federal civil rights law, based on the SCOTUS's Bostock ruling.

They might draw a line between public and private enterprise where how employees present themselves can affect a private enterprise's livelihood, the same is not true for public ones.

 

[scombrid]

Waiting for DeSantis to notice that our division has a DEI initiative and that one of our best social scientists is non-binary. We have dress code about appropriate field and lab attire, fragrance in the office, and length of shorts. But gender falls nowhere in the code.