Jeb Bush fustigates Pope on global warming

[Perspicuo]

Jeb Bush joins Republican backlash against pope on climate change
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...joins-republican-backlash-pope-climate-change

Republican presidential contender Jeb Bush joined forces with the coal industry and climate deniers in a gathering conservative backlash against the pope, lashing out against a leaked draft of the spiritual leader’s letter on climate change.

In his first official day on the presidential campaign trail, Bush, who is Catholic, told a town hall event in New Hampshire that Pope Francis should steer clear of global affairs.

The energy industry also turned on the pope, with the lobbyist for one of America’s biggest coalmining companies sending out an email blast on Tuesday, rebuking the church leader for failing to promote fossil fuels as a solution to global poverty.

These bastardos (is there a better word?) will even go against their chirished religion thing to support dirty money and assorted madness. Another example of how religion is... "regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful".

 

[dismal]

This is almost as bad as atheists acting like we should give a crap about the Pope.

 

[untermensche]

Right now the only people Jeb Bush and that pathetic cast of characters known as Republican candidates are talking to are Republican primary voters.

Talking to the most delusional Americans that exist that is.

Even the most unintelligent animal knows better than to shit where it lives.

It takes being a human to not comprehend that.

This is a remarkable Pope. Usually you don't see people like this rise so far in the Catholic church.

But of course the preferential treatment of the poor and the lowly has been a part of Christianity for a long time.

Something completely missing from many US Christians, who imagine god a rich capitalist.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, the question is which religion is more important to him - Catholocism or money? God does nothing for him* and campaign financiers from the energy lobby help him out. It's an easy choice.

* Because he doesn't exist or because he's afraid of backing someone other than Clinton - take your pick.

 

[Perspicuo]

I love this, because in addition to giving us what is sure to be entertaining soap opera fun for a while, I reckon this equals a good firecracker up GOP's rectum.

(And if papa Bergoglio did it just to make peace with liberals accross the Western hemisphere, so what? The die is already cast for religion's future.)

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I love this, because in addition to giving us what is sure to be entertaining soap opera fun for a while, I reckon this equals a good firecracker up GOP's rectum.

(And if papa Bergoglio did it just to make peace with liberals accross the Western hemisphere, so what? The die is already cast for religion's future.)

The Hispanic vote is incredibly important to Bush. And he is doing his best to piss off their religious leader... and absolutely needlessly. Why bring up the Pope?!

 

[untermensche]

I love this, because in addition to giving us what is sure to be entertaining soap opera fun for a while, I reckon this equals a good firecracker up GOP's rectum.

(And if papa Bergoglio did it just to make peace with liberals accross the Western hemisphere, so what? The die is already cast for religion's future.)

He did it because he believes in a god that made humans a steward over the planet.

Something they are capable of being.

But instead we are spoiling the planet on a massive scale. Making it inhabitable.

 

[Horatio Parker]

His first obstacles are the primaries. He's appealing to the base.

 

[dismal]

I love this, because in addition to giving us what is sure to be entertaining soap opera fun for a while, I reckon this equals a good firecracker up GOP's rectum.

(And if papa Bergoglio did it just to make peace with liberals accross the Western hemisphere, so what? The die is already cast for religion's future.)

He did it because he believes in a god that made humans a steward over the planet.

Something they are capable of being.

But instead we are spoiling the planet on a massive scale. Making it inhabitable.

This is the same god that gave us earthquakes, floods, droughts, plagues, famines, and mosquitos gratis right?

 

[Ford]

Right now the only people Jeb Bush and that pathetic cast of characters known as Republican candidates are talking to are Republican primary voters.

Talking to the most delusional Americans that exist that is.

And the Pope doesn't answer to anyone.

In his first official day on the presidential campaign trail, Bush, who is Catholic, told a town hall event in New Hampshire that Pope Francis should steer clear of global affairs.

To which the Pope responded "excuse me? I'm a head of state, motherfucker, and leader of a congregation of over a billion people - of which you are only one! And speaking of global affairs, aren't you the younger brother of the guy who got all those people killed in Iraq? I rest my case."
(well that's how I imagine it went, anyway)


It will be interesting to see how this all plays out if the encyclical is anything like we've seen so far. If the Pope (and by extension, the Catholic Church) comes down firmly on the side of science and in favor of combating climate change, it could cause a rift (dare I say a schism?) in the relations between the church and the right wing evangelicals in 'Murica who believe global warming is nothing more than an evil liberal hoax.


It isn't like they can vote the Pope out of office.

 

[untermensche]

He did it because he believes in a god that made humans a steward over the planet.

Something they are capable of being.

But instead we are spoiling the planet on a massive scale. Making it inhabitable.

This is the same god that gave us earthquakes, floods, droughts, plagues, famines, and mosquitos gratis right?

We are here. That is his proof of god as far as I know.

There are some things we can control and some we can't.

The things we pollute the environment with are things we can control.

 

[untermensche]

And the Pope doesn't answer to anyone.

I don't think these are religious ideas beyond the idea of stewardship as opposed to spoiler of the planet.

If one sees humans as having some responsibility in the things they do then they can easily side with the Pope.

If one sees the world as something we should use up and destroy as fast as possible one can easily side with Bush the younger.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I don't think these are religious ideas beyond the idea of stewardship as opposed to spoiler of the planet.

If one sees humans as having some responsibility in the things they do then they can easily side with the Pope.

Except the pope's 'side' is that we were given responsibility by the lord high muckey muck.

 

[dismal]

This is the same god that gave us earthquakes, floods, droughts, plagues, famines, and mosquitos gratis right?

We are here. That is his proof of god as far as I know.

There are some things we can control and some we can't.

The things we pollute the environment with are things we can control.

That's a lovely philosophy and some day thousands may worship you as a prophet, but this thread is about the Pope and his god can control everything.

 

[untermensche]

We are here. That is his proof of god as far as I know.

There are some things we can control and some we can't.

The things we pollute the environment with are things we can control.

That's a lovely philosophy and some day thousands may worship you as a prophet, but this thread is about the Pope and his god can control everything.

That's a lovely evasion.

Are you saying that controlling pollutants is as difficult as controlling earthquakes?

 

[dismal]

That's a lovely philosophy and some day thousands may worship you as a prophet, but this thread is about the Pope and his god can control everything.

That's a lovely evasion.

Are you saying that controlling pollutants is as difficult as controlling earthquakes?

It's all easy for the Pope's god.

Pointing out this is a thread about the Pope is not evading things in a thread about the Pope.

If you want to have a different discussion you can start another thread.

 

[untermensche]

That's a lovely evasion.

Are you saying that controlling pollutants is as difficult as controlling earthquakes?

It's all easy for the Pope's god.

Pointing out this is a thread about the Pope is not evading things in a thread about the Pope.

If you want to have a different discussion you can start another thread.

It is about what the Pope was talking about.

This is not a thread discussing the merit of Popes.

And this Pope was talking about actually trying to preserve the environment for the future. Not stopping the earthquakes, although there is some evidence that fracking increasing their likelihood.

Things Jeb is not interested in. Return on the investments of the right people is what interests him.

 

[ronburgundy]

His first obstacles are the primaries. He's appealing to the base.

Just like he will do with his actual policies if elected, in order to get re-elected. Which is why whether his comments are his "honest" views or not is completely irrelevant. They show what segment of irrational, anti-science, fuck-the-environment extremists that his policies will cater to. This is most especially true on climate change related policies, since his voting base shares the same fuck-the-environment views that most of his corporate donors have and that most of his own companies and cronnies companies have.

IOW, only such extremist or people to ignorant and stupid to understand that they will control his policy on this issue (as they do for the Republican party in general) would consider voting for him in a general election.

 

[Perspicuo]

They are all for sticking religion down everybody's throat,
except when their con$cien$$ is in the way!

 

[dismal]

It's all easy for the Pope's god.

Pointing out this is a thread about the Pope is not evading things in a thread about the Pope.

If you want to have a different discussion you can start another thread.

It is about what the Pope was talking about.

This is not a thread discussing the merit of Popes.

And this Pope was talking about actually trying to preserve the environment for the future. Not stopping the earthquakes, although there is some evidence that fracking increasing their likelihood.

Things Jeb is not interested in. Return on the investments of the right people is what interests him.

Either the Pope is connected to the big man upstairs (and I don't mean Papa George Bush here) or he's a delusional guy in a funny hat.

If it's the former he should ask why the big boss doesn't fix earthquakes, floods, ice ages, plagues, famines, droughts, mosquitos and at some point down the list of things that suck in the world, that pesky 1 degree of global warming.

If it's the latter we should making fun of him for wearing a pointy hat and talking to a sky being like we usually do.