Lady Gaga offers $500k reward for her dogs

[laughing dog]

The award is for her dogs, not to find the criminals who almost killed the guy. Stay Woke my friends.

Offering a reward for the safe return of the dogs with no questions asked is an attempt to get them back. It gives the criminals an incentive to return the dogs either directly or indirectly through a third party. If you think Lady Gaga thought this up by herself, you are sadly mistaken - it is often done in crimes where someone or something is taken.
I am also under the impression that the police do not necessarily want rewards offered for information since they tend to create more work with no payoff. That may be the case right now.

So, this reward offer is not necessarily an example of "wokeness".

She could offer an award to find the guy who shot the dog walker.

As I mentioned before, she may be dissuaded by the police from doing so.

That she values her dogs over human life definitely makes her woke.

Offering a reward for the safe return of her dogs does not mean she values her dogs over human life. The dog walker's recovery is completely independent of the apprehension of the assailants. There is no evidence that she values her dogs over human life. Your conclusion is irrational.

 

[TSwizzle]

As though you give a shit about the fucking dog walker.

How did you leap to that conclusion? I give more of a shit about the dog walker than the dogs or any pet animal.

I guess you don’t get sarcasm but I don’t give a fuck about the two dogs. I think it’s ridiculous that the dogs are worth more than than dog walkers life by some people. I.e the people willing to shoot the dog walker. These people were willing to kill someone to get a couple of dogs. That’s sick.

 

[Angra Mainyu]

I guess you don’t get sarcasm but I don’t give a fuck about the two dogs. I think it’s ridiculous that the dogs are worth more than than dog walkers life by some people. I.e the people willing to shoot the dog walker. These people were willing to kill someone to get a couple of dogs. That’s sick.

Those people only value the dogs more than the dog walker instrumentally. What they value is the money; kidnapping dogs is a less serious crime than kidnapping a person (they probably did not plan to shoot him), so they probably reckoned the risk/benefit for them was better going for the dogs. If they had thought the risk-benefit was better for them kidnapping the man, they would have (even if they had to kill the dogs to get him).

That is sick, but it's not about valuing dogs more than people.

 

[Politesse]

As though you give a shit about the fucking dog walker.

How did you leap to that conclusion? I give more of a shit about the dog walker than the dogs or any pet animal.

I guess you don’t get sarcasm but I don’t give a fuck about the two dogs. I think it’s ridiculous that the dogs are worth more than than dog walkers life by some people. I.e the people willing to shoot the dog walker. These people were willing to kill someone to get a couple of dogs. That’s sick.

They were almost certainly after money, not the dogs per se. And you advocate killing people for money (sorry, "the economy") on a regular basis, have been doing so loudly and constantly on this forum ever since the pandemic began. So I'm not sure what kind of hill you think you're standing on. Do you think people are going to mistake you for some kind of humanitarian?

 

[TSwizzle]

Those people only value the dogs more than the dog walker instrumentally. What they value is the money; kidnapping dogs is a less serious crime than kidnapping a person (they probably did not plan to shoot him), so they probably reckoned the risk/benefit for them was better going for the dogs. If they had thought the risk-benefit was better for them kidnapping the man, they would have (even if they had to kill the dogs to get him).

That is sick, but it's not about valuing dogs more than people.

Fair point, the dogs are merely a means to an end, money.

I’m actually baffled that anyone would pay money for dogs anyway but each to their own.

 

[TSwizzle]

They were almost certainly after money, not the dogs per se.

You’re either dense or being deliberately stupid.

And you advocate killing people for money (sorry, "the economy") on a regular basis, have been doing so loudly and constantly on this forum ever since the pandemic began.

Male bovine excrement.

 

[Ford]

I just walked down to the mailbox, and saw two signs. One taped to the stop sign on the corner about a lost dog, and one taped to the mailbox about a lost cat.

The first thing I thought was "man, that's too bad. I hope they get their pets back." Then I made a mental note to look out for the animals and (according to the sign for the dog) to approach with care. If there was a reward offered, I'd think "wow, they really want their pet back, and I can understand."

Nowhere in my mind was "I need to move out of this town" or "gods, they've got money to pay for their pets' return? How upper class!"


No, I just tried a little empathy. It's not hard. I don't currently have a dog (or cat) but I would be beside myself if they went missing. When I saw this story, I thought "I hope Stephanie (she's a real person, by the way) gets her dogs back" and also "I hope her dog walker is okay and they catch the criminals." When I heard about the reward, I didn't think for one moment that Gaga "values the lives of her dogs over a human life" because who would think that? I would think that - what with her being a human being and all - she'd be mortified that someone she entrusted with her dogs would be shot and robbed.

I'm glad she got her dogs back. I'm glad her dog walker is (apparently) going to be okay. I hope the LAPD finds the criminals. You - Trausti - seem to be more angry at Stephanie for...I don't know exactly...than at the criminals who stole the dogs and shot her employee.

 

[Tharmas]

To me, it's a question of what's newsworthy, what sells papers. Some guy gets shot in LA, not newsworthy. A celebrity offers half a mil for two dogs - newsworthy. Did she care that a guy got shot? Most likely I think, but really I have no idea. That's not newsworthy, unless she shows up with a photographer in tow and a giant check made out to the hospital for half a million.

 

[Tharmas]

From here (CNN).

Gaga went on to praise the injured dog walker, who's recovering in a Los Angeles hospital, writing, "I continue to love you Ryan Fischer, you risked your life to fight for our family. You're forever a hero."

Lady Gaga says she loves you and you're a hero - newsworthy.

 

[TSwizzle]

Nowhere in my mind was "I need to move out of this town" or "gods, they've got money to pay for their pets' return? How upper class!"

Violent crime and homicides in Los Angeles have increased quite a bit this year. West Hollywood is actually quite a nice area apart from the homeless encampments that are dotted around. It’s just another shitty thing that goes on in this godforsaken shithole that makes me want to move.

 

[TSwizzle]

To me, it's a question of what's newsworthy, what sells papers. Some guy gets shot in LA, not newsworthy. A celebrity offers half a mil for two dogs - newsworthy. Did she care that a guy got shot? Most likely I think, but really I have no idea. That's not newsworthy, unless she shows up with a photographer in tow and a giant check made out to the hospital for half a million.

It’s newsworthy here in Los Angeles because it’s part of the entertainment industry circus. We were bombarded with Tiger Woods’ fender bender for two days solid.

 

[Ford]

Nowhere in my mind was "I need to move out of this town" or "gods, they've got money to pay for their pets' return? How upper class!"

It’s just another shitty thing that goes on in this godforsaken shithole that makes me want to move.

Then fucking move.

Instead of bitching about it, get the fuck out. Go to somewhere where you can say to your neighbors "those damned Hollywood celebrities, am I right?"

 

[TSwizzle]

Then fucking move.

I’ll move when I’m good and fucking ready.

Instead of bitching about it, get the fuck out. Go to somewhere where you can say to your neighbors "those damned Hollywood celebrities, am I right?"

Nope. I like the celebrities. I know a few celebrities. I’ve had neighbors that are celebrities. One of my neighbors was an Oscar winning director. A great guy.

 

[Ford]

Then fucking move.

I’ll move when I’m good and fucking ready.

I mean, you started this thread with these words:

I really gotta move out of LA;

Seems like maybe you're good and fucking ready.

 

[TSwizzle]

I mean, you started this thread with these words:

I really gotta move out of LA;

Seems like maybe you're good and fucking ready.

Your “hearing” aint so good fella. I’ll move when I’m good and fucking ready. Which won’t be too much longer in case you’re interested which you obviously are.

 

[ZiprHead]

My guess is it was the cops that had LGG offer the reward to help sniff out the perps.

 

[ronburgundy]

She could offer an award to find the guy who shot the dog walker. That she values her dogs over human life definitely makes her woke.

First it implies nothing about the value she places on human life. The harm to the human had been already done, while the danger to the dogs was ongoing. The only thing she can do to help the human that was harmed is pay for his medical bills, which she is doing.

Second, if in fact she did not value human life, it wouldn't make her "woke", it would make her a conservative like the non-maskers who think everyone over 65 and the "weak" should be sacrificed for the economy, everyone who opposes basic health care for all or strict gun control, and most of the .1% and Fortune 500 CEO's who value extreme wealth more than lives. And if Gaga were actually "woke" she'd be opposed to anyone, including herself having such extreme wealth that offering $500,000 to get her dogs back is like an average person donating $10 to find their lost dog.

 

[Worldtraveller]

Be that as it may, society is sick if a couple of dogs are somehow worth more than a person’s life or $500k.

Thank the lord, I have not slept since they were taken.

As though you give a shit about the fucking dog walker. I don't exactly see you putting up a Gofundme. You didn't even look up whether he was okay. Conservatives are such fucking liars to the core. Do you ever have real emotions about fellow human beings, or is it just this feigned outrage nonsense whenever it suits your ends?

*raises hand*

OOoh OOh, Mr. Cotta...call on me, I know the answer!

 

[TSwizzle]

One of my neighbors was an Oscar winning director. A great guy.

I take that back, he didn't win an Oscar. He was nominated for an Oscar for writing but didn't win.

 

[J842P]

She could offer an award to find the guy who shot the dog walker. That she values her dogs over human life definitely makes her woke.

Dunno about that, a lot of people value an animal’s life over human life or as being equal. Some people are just over the top about it.

I don't think you need to value the dog's life over the human's life just because you offered money for the dog's return. It's not like they have both the dog walker and the dogs being ransomed.

I'm fining it hard to see what the woke angle is here... pop star has dogs stolen, offers rewards for safe return ... seems pretty banal, actually.