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Luke Cage Trailer

Now up to episode 4. Not gonna read your spoiler yet.

From reviews I've seen, a lot of people seem to have different opinions about which of the Marvel-Netflix series is the best, which is a good thing. So far, Jessica Jones is still my favorite, but it's a close call. While I enjoyed the disturbing psychological aspects of Jessica Jones, I think mostly it's because of my opinion that some of the most interesting Marvel characters are the most flawed.
 
Finished as of 1pm today. I'll wait a bit before saying "I know it's my favorite so far", but that's likely how it'll end up being. Again, this was basically made for, and as an expression of, guys like me, as opposed to the Daredevil or Jessica Jones series.

Still, I can't really say that any of them are objectively better or worse. First, because I'm just not much of a reviewer, but second because they all do have their merits and speak from different tastes and perspectives.

And I think that's all I'll say outside of spoilers for now.
 
I made it about five episodes in before taking a break - I decided I'd rather not watch the entire thing in one sitting, since I just get burned out that way. So far, though, this is my favorite of the Netflix Marvel series - granted, it was bound to be in a way, but it really has a much more...relatable atmosphere than the mystic/legal clean feel of Daredevil, or the noire feel of Jessica Jones. Unlike them...

*cough* spoilers for eps 1-5 below...


the Neighborhood - Harlem - feels like it's a character in the show in and of itself. This is somewhat needed for a nearly invincible man like Cage, since he's essentially fighting for the neighborhood via the people who live in it. As one example, there's a minor character who is surprisingly well fleshed out, for someone that may or may not appear in the future. And while Pops is killed at the end of episode 2, you're still getting his backstory, how he was seen by various characters, how and why his barbershop was such a center to the neighborhood - at least up until his funeral three episodes later.

Also, the difference between the long, brutal fight scenes in Daredevil and the quick-cut scenes that Cage gets work for the two characters. Murdock's a ninja, he's almost flowing through the entire brawl - but at the same time, he's a normal guy with enhanced senses, so the sheer length make you understand exactly how much those brawls wear on him, with him almost gasping for air and fighting off pain in the end. With Cage, the poor mooks don't stand a chance - the break-in at the Crispus Attucks is a bunch of cuts of him casually knocking people into walls, tossing them into ceilings, completely ignoring their attacks except possibly to crush their guns in his hands, all set to "Bring Da Ruckus" by Wu-Tang Clan in the best possible music choice. both the long DD brawls and Luke Cage's break-in are in long, heavily constricted spaces, but the two very different characters get very different cimematography, and thus very different feels.


Now I can read your spoilers.

In the comic books, Luke Cage is not as powerful as Hulk or Thor, but he is one of the heavy hitters in the Marvel universe, so you're right. He can wade through underworld goons like no one's business. From what we've seen in the show, it's not hard to imagine that super groups will try hard to recruit him based on the rep he's building for himself in the show. Good.

I'm almost at the halfway point, so I feel like I can comment a bit on the series as a whole.

For one thing, the pacing is much slower than Daredevil or Jessica Jones, and that's not a bad thing. Not at all.

I was worried that the series would shy away from commentary about Black Lives Matter, African-American issues, political issues, police corruption, etc., and am not disappointed. This show tackles that stuff dead on for anyone willing to read between the lines of the themes and symbols.

The main actor (Mike Colter) is very charismatic and more than good enough to carry a whole series on his shoulders. Not quite as angry as the character from the source material, but I really like this version of the character.

We get to learn more about the Claire Temple character. (Yay!) I don't care if Marvel has declared that this is not "the" Night Nurse, this version of Claire Temple is amazing and I look forward to seeing more of her.

I really, really like this version of Misty Knight even though they changed a few things from the comic books. I can't wait to see more of her, and I hope she gets her own hero's journey in Iron Fist. This version is not quite as sassy, but more thoughtful. Most importantly, she is her own woman and not defined by the men around her.
 
When did Marvel declare that Claire Temple is not the Night Nurse? They even call her by that name in Luke Cage.
 
Just finished watching the last episode. No complaints there. But one thing keeps nagging me.

Does misty have a goddamn healing power too? His arm was messed up, but she seemed to recover in matter of hours. That felt almost like a cop-out to fans who damn well know that Misty is supposed to get a bionic arm at some point.

 
When did Marvel declare that Claire Temple is not the Night Nurse? They even call her by that name in Luke Cage.

I don't remember where I heard it, so take this with a grain of salt, but apparently the "real" night nurse will show up in the Dr Strange movie.
 
When did Marvel declare that Claire Temple is not the Night Nurse? They even call her by that name in Luke Cage.

I don't remember where I heard it, so take this with a grain of salt, but apparently the "real" night nurse will show up in the Dr Strange movie.
That would be a shitty thing to do. I'm ok with the character Christine Palmer being used in Doctor Strange, but don't they dare call her "night nurse"...
 
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Finished the season.

First few episodes were a little slow to get going, but after that it was great! Jessica Jones is still my favorite Marvel TV show, but this is a clear second.

There is a fun nod to his original costume I one flashback. Oh, and Stan Lee appears on a poster late in the series.
 
Finished the season.

First few episodes were a little slow to get going, but after that it was great! Jessica Jones is still my favorite Marvel TV show, but this is a clear second.

There is a fun nod to his original costume I one flashback. Oh, and Stan Lee appears on a poster late in the series.

But then instead of a Stan Lee actual cameo, we get...

(Um, may want to watch the entire series before reading this one)


freaking METHOD MAN, who ends up starting a trend of young black men wearing hoodies filled with bullet holes in protest against the police's attempts to find Cage, and against their recent treatment of Harlem in general. And it plays out...surprisingly naturally.

And this is a part of what I meant when I said that Harlem is a character in it's own right. More than any other Marvel property, or any DC property, a lot of work was put into portraying Harlem as a vibrant community, with a criminal element certainly, but also a large number of good people simply trying to get by, police that range from strongly on the side of justice to outright corruption, and so on. And that was clear to me, at least, right from the start. Which is why I was not surprised when, say, the dude hawking videos of the Manhattan incident in episode 1 started reappearing throughout the series, or the well-behaved kid we see at Pop's being getting beaten by a (black!) cop after Diamondback frames Cage. Even Diamondback has his parallels among obnoxious, preachy-ass criminals. Maybe this is why I didn't see the start of the show as slow at all - even when Cage is getting driven (one can't really say "hauled off" when he's that powerful) and modifies Pop's saying, he's still reflecting on the neighborhood that was being built up at the start of episode 1.

There are a lot of other cultural queues in the show that are easy to miss if you aren't looking for them - for example, Black Mariah and Inspector Lonnie Wilson (two more well-developed black women in the show) are sorority sisters, much to Misty Knight's annoyance. I also liked how, although there are clearly some loose ends, the show rather strongly hints at how some of them will be tied up in the future - Bobby Fish giving the exonerating evidence he finds to Murdock to get Cage freed, for example.

 
Finished the season.

First few episodes were a little slow to get going, but after that it was great! Jessica Jones is still my favorite Marvel TV show, but this is a clear second.

There is a fun nod to his original costume I one flashback. Oh, and Stan Lee appears on a poster late in the series.

But then instead of a Stan Lee actual cameo, we get...

(Um, may want to watch the entire series before reading this one)


freaking METHOD MAN, who ends up starting a trend of young black men wearing hoodies filled with bullet holes in protest against the police's attempts to find Cage, and against their recent treatment of Harlem in general. And it plays out...surprisingly naturally.

And this is a part of what I meant when I said that Harlem is a character in it's own right. More than any other Marvel property, or any DC property, a lot of work was put into portraying Harlem as a vibrant community, with a criminal element certainly, but also a large number of good people simply trying to get by, police that range from strongly on the side of justice to outright corruption, and so on. And that was clear to me, at least, right from the start. Which is why I was not surprised when, say, the dude hawking videos of the Manhattan incident in episode 1 started reappearing throughout the series, or the well-behaved kid we see at Pop's being getting beaten by a (black!) cop after Diamondback frames Cage. Even Diamondback has his parallels among obnoxious, preachy-ass criminals. Maybe this is why I didn't see the start of the show as slow at all - even when Cage is getting driven (one can't really say "hauled off" when he's that powerful) and modifies Pop's saying, he's still reflecting on the neighborhood that was being built up at the start of episode 1.

There are a lot of other cultural queues in the show that are easy to miss if you aren't looking for them - for example, Black Mariah and Inspector Lonnie Wilson (two more well-developed black women in the show) are sorority sisters, much to Misty Knight's annoyance. I also liked how, although there are clearly some loose ends, the show rather strongly hints at how some of them will be tied up in the future - Bobby Fish giving the exonerating evidence he finds to Murdock to get Cage freed, for example.


Well I have to say


My wife was tearing up at Method Man's radio interview in the show.

I agree, this isn't just about one guy, but also the community he lives in. That is a difference I've often felt between DC and Marvel. DC has characters that are gods walking the earth, while Marvel has humans. Powerful humans, but still flawed and with other problems. And we get ordinary people standing up for themselves as well, from the crowd that helped Spider-Man in the first movie, to Claire chasing after the purse snatcher in this series.

My question is: Is Misty going to get her bionic arm? They backed off of it here, but maybe in the future.

 
A couple of weird things from the last episode.


The final words of the show. "Sometimes backwards... to go forward... always." Wait what? Sometimes or always? :rolleyes:

And then there was the painting that Shades and Mariah put up to replace Biggie Smalls. It looked like it was drawn by a 4-year old with crayons. Just look at it:

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Did they run out of budget in the last episode, or lost the real panting and had to improvise? :hysterical:

 
But then instead of a Stan Lee actual cameo, we get...

(Um, may want to watch the entire series before reading this one)


freaking METHOD MAN, who ends up starting a trend of young black men wearing hoodies filled with bullet holes in protest against the police's attempts to find Cage, and against their recent treatment of Harlem in general. And it plays out...surprisingly naturally.

And this is a part of what I meant when I said that Harlem is a character in it's own right. More than any other Marvel property, or any DC property, a lot of work was put into portraying Harlem as a vibrant community, with a criminal element certainly, but also a large number of good people simply trying to get by, police that range from strongly on the side of justice to outright corruption, and so on. And that was clear to me, at least, right from the start. Which is why I was not surprised when, say, the dude hawking videos of the Manhattan incident in episode 1 started reappearing throughout the series, or the well-behaved kid we see at Pop's being getting beaten by a (black!) cop after Diamondback frames Cage. Even Diamondback has his parallels among obnoxious, preachy-ass criminals. Maybe this is why I didn't see the start of the show as slow at all - even when Cage is getting driven (one can't really say "hauled off" when he's that powerful) and modifies Pop's saying, he's still reflecting on the neighborhood that was being built up at the start of episode 1.

There are a lot of other cultural queues in the show that are easy to miss if you aren't looking for them - for example, Black Mariah and Inspector Lonnie Wilson (two more well-developed black women in the show) are sorority sisters, much to Misty Knight's annoyance. I also liked how, although there are clearly some loose ends, the show rather strongly hints at how some of them will be tied up in the future - Bobby Fish giving the exonerating evidence he finds to Murdock to get Cage freed, for example.


Well I have to say


My wife was tearing up at Method Man's radio interview in the show.

I agree, this isn't just about one guy, but also the community he lives in. That is a difference I've often felt between DC and Marvel. DC has characters that are gods walking the earth, while Marvel has humans. Powerful humans, but still flawed and with other problems. And we get ordinary people standing up for themselves as well, from the crowd that helped Spider-Man in the first movie, to Claire chasing after the purse snatcher in this series.

My question is: Is Misty going to get her bionic arm? They backed off of it here, but maybe in the future.


Well...


If Misty doesn't get a Stark-built bionic arm with crazy offensive capabilities, I as a fan am going to be angry.

I mean, Trish Walker doesn't actually have to get demonic powers from a deal with the devil. She can just remain an ordinary person who happens to be good at martial arts and I would be fine with that, but I would like to see Misty with the bionic arm. Not only do I want to see her get the arm, but I hope we get a Tony Stark cameo out of it.

Oh, and they gave us such a lovely bit of fanservice at the end of the last episode. That outfit and hairdo Misty was wearing at the club was highly reminiscent of her look in the comic books.

 
A couple of weird things from the last episode.


The final words of the show. "Sometimes backwards... to go forward... always." Wait what? Sometimes or always? :rolleyes:

And then there was the painting that Shades and Mariah put up to replace Biggie Smalls. It looked like it was drawn by a 4-year old with crayons. Just look at it:

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Did they run out of budget in the last episode, or lost the real panting and had to improvise? :hysterical:

in answer


That is actually likely a multi-million dollar painting. 'Red Kings' by Basquiat (not that I know anything about art, but my wife recognized it)

see a little more here

 
Y'know, Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing the new series.
That racist who wants to take white people's money because of what happened to his great-great-grandfather?

What is the show going to be? A #blm screed about how much white people suck?
Edited to add: reading the rest of the thread, it seems that's exactly what the show is. Cheap racist, political propaganda. I'll pass.
 
Y'know, Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing the new series.
That racist who wants to take white people's money because of what happened to his great-great-grandfather?

What is the show going to be? A #blm screed about how much white people suck?
Edited to add: reading the rest of the thread, it seems that's exactly what the show is. Cheap racist, political propaganda. I'll pass.
The Ta-Nehisi Coates series that Mumbles was referring to is the Black Panther comic book. Coates has nothing to do with Luke Cage as far as I know.

As for missing Luke Cage, your loss.
 
That racist who wants to take white people's money because of what happened to his great-great-grandfather?

What is the show going to be? A #blm screed about how much white people suck?
Edited to add: reading the rest of the thread, it seems that's exactly what the show is. Cheap racist, political propaganda. I'll pass.
The Ta-Nehisi Coates series that Mumbles was referring to is the Black Panther comic book. Coates has nothing to do with Luke Cage as far as I know.

As for missing Luke Cage, your loss.

The new Black Panther run written by Coates is also one of the best books Marvel has going right now. Derec wouldn't like it much, however, as it is set in the (fictional) African nation of Wakanda, and there are very few white people appearing in it.
 
That racist who wants to take white people's money because of what happened to his great-great-grandfather?

What is the show going to be? A #blm screed about how much white people suck?
Edited to add: reading the rest of the thread, it seems that's exactly what the show is. Cheap racist, political propaganda. I'll pass.
The Ta-Nehisi Coates series that Mumbles was referring to is the Black Panther comic book. Coates has nothing to do with Luke Cage as far as I know.

As for missing Luke Cage, your loss.

Ignore him. It's just another one of those random "Oh yeah? Well you're the real racist because you're complaining about racism!" rants they use to deny their own racism to themselves.

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The Ta-Nehisi Coates series that Mumbles was referring to is the Black Panther comic book. Coates has nothing to do with Luke Cage as far as I know.

As for missing Luke Cage, your loss.

The new Black Panther run written by Coates is also one of the best books Marvel has going right now. Derec wouldn't like it much, however, as it is set in the (fictional) African nation of Wakanda, and there are very few white people appearing in it.

Also, as Derec pointed out, the author acknowledges that racism exists and still affects things in the world today, which according to racists makes him the "real racist."
 
A couple of weird things from the last episode.


The final words of the show. "Sometimes backwards... to go forward... always." Wait what? Sometimes or always? :rolleyes:

And then there was the painting that Shades and Mariah put up to replace Biggie Smalls. It looked like it was drawn by a 4-year old with crayons. Just look at it:

View attachment 8279

Did they run out of budget in the last episode, or lost the real panting and had to improvise? :hysterical:

in answer


That is actually likely a multi-million dollar painting. 'Red Kings' by Basquiat (not that I know anything about art, but my wife recognized it)

see a little more here


That article was funny and informative. Thanks for posting it.
 
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