Maybe it wasn't Russian hackers who leaked the DNC emails...

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Another "coincidence" - his family has been doing everything it can to silence the conspiracy theories -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich

....Rich's parents condemned the conspiracy theorists and said that these individuals were exploiting their son's death for political gain, and their spokesperson called the conspiracy theorists "disgusting sociopaths".[14][15][16] They requested a retraction and apology from Fox News after the network promoted the conspiracy theory,[17] and sent a cease and desist letter to the investigator Fox News used.[7][16][17] The investigator stated that he had no evidence to back up the claims which Fox News attributed to him.[6][7][18] Fox News issued a retraction, but did not apologize or publicly explain what went wrong.[19] In return, the Rich family filed a defamation lawsuit against Fox News in March 2018,[20] which was dismissed in August 2018, when a judge ruled that the plaintiffs failed to prove "extreme and outrageous" conduct by the defendants under the legal standard.[21]...

More fishiness...

What coincidence? There isn't one. How would you feel if your son died...then people made up conspiracy theories, slandering him and others...in the news constantly with made-up stuff? Do you know the loss people feel when someone close dies? Can you imagine constant reminders of their death but cast in a negative light against their friends and co-workers?

In this case you cited "Fox News issued a retraction." A further defamation suit is harder to prove because it goes to intent at least in part. But their claim was not factual and it was slander, so they had to retract.

 

[RVonse]

This whole thread should be in pseudoscience. The OP is even citing fakes news to make his case. Holy crap!

When do we get to the 9/11-was-an-inside-job/building-7 and man-never-landed-on-the-moon portion of the festivities?

When you are dealing with insider's of the US government everything and/or anything is possible. Everything.

Dont beleive me? Take a look at this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
The proof of just this one incident is factual and hiding in plain sight for all to see. Overwhelming evidence exists all over the internet on Northwoods if you care to inform yourself.

And it tells us that everything is on the table when it comes to the other theories too. I personally believe that the Apollo landings actually did take place as presented by NASA. Simply because there is evidence and science to back that up. NASA has a reputation for telling truth AFAIK. But I would not make fun of anyone who thought otherwise, considering what lying sacks of shit we have running our government.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Indeed. I would want to see actual evidence and weigh it out before reaching a conclusion. The moon landing has that evidence to be looked at by everybody. 9/11 being an inside job has none. The conspiracy of Trump colluding with Russia to win the 2016 election doesn't have a whole lot aside from "intelligence agencies say so". I can't trust that. We seem to be getting a little more actual evidence as we go along, but it is still far too soon to leap to the conclusion that this is legit and that Russia installed Trump as president.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

The conspiracy of Trump colluding with Russia to win the 2016 election doesn't have a whole lot aside from "intelligence agencies say so".

The Trump campaign colluded with Russia. That's a fact at this point in time. We can tell merely from the meeting at Trump Tower between his campaign and Russians as well as an email trail.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Indeed. I would want to see actual evidence and weigh it out before reaching a conclusion. The moon landing has that evidence to be looked at by everybody. 9/11 being an inside job has none. The conspiracy of Trump colluding with Russia to win the 2016 election doesn't have a whole lot aside from "intelligence agencies say so". I can't trust that. We seem to be getting a little more actual evidence as we go along, but it is still far too soon to leap to the conclusion that this is legit and that Russia installed Trump as president.

The intel agencies aren't going to say how they know.

However, all we need to do is look at His Flatulence's behavior. What is the thing he tries the hardest to stop? Investigation of Russian meddling and Russian influence. Why would he care unless such investigations were likely to expose things he didn't want exposed? He knows there's something to find--and therefore something must have happened. The only question is how much.

 

[excreationist]

....How would you feel if your son died...then people made up conspiracy theories, slandering him and others...in the news constantly with made-up stuff? Do you know the loss people feel when someone close dies? Can you imagine constant reminders of their death but cast in a negative light against their friends and co-workers?....

Qanon calls Seth Rich a "patriot" (who they might also consider a "hero"). I'd say the only people being slandered were people like Hillary or whoever they're blaming for the murder.

 

[RVonse]

Indeed. I would want to see actual evidence and weigh it out before reaching a conclusion. The moon landing has that evidence to be looked at by everybody. 9/11 being an inside job has none. The conspiracy of Trump colluding with Russia to win the 2016 election doesn't have a whole lot aside from "intelligence agencies say so". I can't trust that. We seem to be getting a little more actual evidence as we go along, but it is still far too soon to leap to the conclusion that this is legit and that Russia installed Trump as president.

The intel agencies aren't going to say how they know.

However, all we need to do is look at His Flatulence's behavior. What is the thing he tries the hardest to stop? Investigation of Russian meddling and Russian influence. Why would he care unless such investigations were likely to expose things he didn't want exposed? He knows there's something to find--and therefore something must have happened. The only question is how much.

Being guilty or not has nothing to do with anything.

Even an innocent person does not want a prosecutor hounding for a crime or wrongdoing. You do not have to be guilty to be found guilty. Therefore, it NEVER pays to be under investigation. Do you really think all of the pled cases are actually guilty? A lot of them are innocent people who plead to make sure they dont have to risk something worse. The truth has become irrelevant in today's US justice system. All that matters is the liklyhood of conviction.

In Trumps case, the Mueller preceeding is first and foremost a political dog and pony show and not criminal, hence all the more reason to believe he would want out of this no matter if he is really innocent or not. At best, it is severely limiting what he was voted by the public to accomplish in office. And at worse, he is to be slandered and permanently damaged even if he was innocent.

Where is the upside for Trump? Of course he wants the investigation to stop. As would anyone else who had any kind of intelligence.

 

[Elixir]

Where is the upside for Trump? Of course he wants the investigation to stop. As would anyone else who had any kind of intelligence.

Well, that eliminates Trump. From where I stand it looks like Cheato is all about turnabout. What he is doing to Mueller and the entire Justice Department and intelligence community is a disgrace.
The way he's going after Mueller ... I mean ... really - look at what Cheato is trying to do to Mueller:
At best, it is severely limiting what he was appointed to accomplish in office. And at worse, he is to be slandered and permanently damaged even if he is innocent. The difference? Cheato is a dumbass self-dealing traitor, while Mueller is a brilliant, relatively selfless hard working American who has always put country first.