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Merican Saves World from Muslim Terrorist

Don2 (Don1 Revised)

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[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGLI2hgM9EE[/YOUTUBE]

Very short clip of man who clearly has a fear of all Muslims.
 
This is the furthest I can go as far as muslims - and this is a group property, not an individual thing. Plenty of muslims are apolitical, but Islam as a whole has a political dominion aspect that is hard to remove:

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This is the furthest I can go as far as muslims - and this is a group property, not an individual thing. Plenty of muslims are apolitical, but Islam as a whole has a political dominion aspect that is hard to remove:

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I actually agree with this. It is a feature of abrahamic religions IN GENERAL, but Islam is by far the worst offender.

Christianity used to be this way too until the Enlightenment. And Judaism's ultra-concentrated form produces a residue of Zionism whose sole virtue is in being relatively selective about the target of its violence (although not necessarily of its soft persecution).

Give it another 400 years to mature, you'll have Muslims in Saudi Arabia claiming they're being oppressed for their faith just because lifeguards don't let them wear full burkhas in swimming pools.
 
Christianity used to be this way too until the Enlightenment.

I'd like to modify that a little to say that some new thinking began affecting Christians. I mean, the 1700's were not an end to Christian imperialism at all. Look at movement west in the US and attempts to convert the native populations for example. The Americas in general.

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whichphilosophy said:
Also it's not sure how this person saved the world from a Muslim Terrorism

Didn't you see his triceps?
 
I'd like to see a US town made up of half Muslims and half Scientologists.

Scratch that. I'd like to see 1/3 Muslims, 1/3 Christians, and 1/3 Scientologists.
 
I'd like to modify that a little to say that some new thinking began affecting Christians. I mean, the 1700's were not an end to Christian imperialism at all. Look at movement west in the US and attempts to convert the native populations for example. The Americas in general.
Fair enough...

Christianity used to be this way too until it started to change after the Enlightenment.

whichphilosophy said:
Also it's not sure how this person saved the world from a Muslim Terrorism

Didn't you see his triceps?

I did.

Maybe he's trying to save straight men from going gay for Muslim hunks?
 
Give it another 400 years to mature, you'll have Muslims in Saudi Arabia claiming they're being oppressed for their faith just because lifeguards don't let them wear full burkhas in swimming pools.

I don't understand why you would just assume that Islam will "mature." Christianity didn't "mature," it became diluted after the Enlightenment following years of bloody sectarian violence, but that was hardly an inevitability.
 
Give it another 400 years to mature, you'll have Muslims in Saudi Arabia claiming they're being oppressed for their faith just because lifeguards don't let them wear full burkhas in swimming pools.

I don't understand why you would just assume that Islam will "mature." Christianity didn't "mature," it became diluted after the Enlightenment following years of bloody sectarian violence, but that was hardly an inevitability.

Human beings are slow learners. We repeat the same mistakes over and over again and try the same failed techniques time and again... until the people who use those techniques either die trying them, or they finally wise up and try something different. The Enlightenment was a general movement of Christians away from barbarism towards more constructive methods for no other reason than simply realizing that constructive thinking works better.

Islam had an enlightenment of sorts during the Ottoman Empire, but fell into stagnation and slid back into barbarism. They can and probably will return to a more pragmatic quasi-rational disposition again in the future, but it will considerable amount of time to reach that point. Along the way, they will either get themselves annihilated in a series of geopolitical banzai charges, or the forces of social evolution will forge them into something that doesn't suck as hard.
 
I don't understand why you would just assume that Islam will "mature." Christianity didn't "mature," it became diluted after the Enlightenment following years of bloody sectarian violence, but that was hardly an inevitability.

Human beings are slow learners. We repeat the same mistakes over and over again and try the same failed techniques time and again... until the people who use those techniques either die trying them, or they finally wise up and try something different. The Enlightenment was a general movement of Christians away from barbarism towards more constructive methods for no other reason than simply realizing that constructive thinking works better.

Islam had an enlightenment of sorts during the Ottoman Empire, but fell into stagnation and slid back into barbarism. They can and probably will return to a more pragmatic quasi-rational disposition again in the future, but it will considerable amount of time to reach that point. Along the way, they will either get themselves annihilated in a series of geopolitical banzai charges, or the forces of social evolution will forge them into something that doesn't suck as hard.

The more constructive methods are appealing if, and only if, things are not good at all, and constructive thinking is needed to make them better.

Sadly for the Arabs, Oil wealth rendered the living very easy indeed. There's no benefit from constructive thinking, when you get well fed, clothed and housed either way. When you have enough money to buy the scientific and engineering skills from elsewhere, you can afford to remain ignorant.

In the west, someone whose education includes science and scientific thinking will do well; while a peer who learns nothing but bible verses will do less well (unless he gets nominated as a GOP Presidential candidate). In Arabia, the guy who learns the Koran by heart will do no less well than his brother who learns engineering - assuming that their father would countenance such a thing, the engineer would lack the social contacts his brother gained at Friday prayers, and might actually do less well for himself.

Once the oil runs out, and there is no money to bring in foreign experts to fix problems, then the man who knows useful skills might start to become more valued than the brother who knows nothing other than the Holy Writings of Islam. Until then, the technological advances of the west will prop up the ignorance, both with oil money and with imported intellectualism, leaving Arabs with little incentive to develop a culture that respects intellectual pursuits.
 
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