Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGLI2hgM9EE[/YOUTUBE]
Very short clip of man who clearly has a fear of all Muslims.
Very short clip of man who clearly has a fear of all Muslims.
This is the furthest I can go as far as muslims - and this is a group property, not an individual thing. Plenty of muslims are apolitical, but Islam as a whole has a political dominion aspect that is hard to remove:
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Also it's not sure how this person saved the world from a Muslim Terrorism[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGLI2hgM9EE[/YOUTUBE]
Very short clip of man who clearly has a fear of all Muslims.
Christianity used to be this way too until the Enlightenment.
whichphilosophy said:Also it's not sure how this person saved the world from a Muslim Terrorism
Fair enough...I'd like to modify that a little to say that some new thinking began affecting Christians. I mean, the 1700's were not an end to Christian imperialism at all. Look at movement west in the US and attempts to convert the native populations for example. The Americas in general.
whichphilosophy said:Also it's not sure how this person saved the world from a Muslim Terrorism
Didn't you see his triceps?
Fair enough...
Christianity used to be this way too until it started to change after the Enlightenment.
Give it another 400 years to mature, you'll have Muslims in Saudi Arabia claiming they're being oppressed for their faith just because lifeguards don't let them wear full burkhas in swimming pools.
Give it another 400 years to mature, you'll have Muslims in Saudi Arabia claiming they're being oppressed for their faith just because lifeguards don't let them wear full burkhas in swimming pools.
I don't understand why you would just assume that Islam will "mature." Christianity didn't "mature," it became diluted after the Enlightenment following years of bloody sectarian violence, but that was hardly an inevitability.
I don't understand why you would just assume that Islam will "mature." Christianity didn't "mature," it became diluted after the Enlightenment following years of bloody sectarian violence, but that was hardly an inevitability.
Human beings are slow learners. We repeat the same mistakes over and over again and try the same failed techniques time and again... until the people who use those techniques either die trying them, or they finally wise up and try something different. The Enlightenment was a general movement of Christians away from barbarism towards more constructive methods for no other reason than simply realizing that constructive thinking works better.
Islam had an enlightenment of sorts during the Ottoman Empire, but fell into stagnation and slid back into barbarism. They can and probably will return to a more pragmatic quasi-rational disposition again in the future, but it will considerable amount of time to reach that point. Along the way, they will either get themselves annihilated in a series of geopolitical banzai charges, or the forces of social evolution will forge them into something that doesn't suck as hard.