MICHIGAN: Doctor Refuses To Treat Child Of Lesbian Couple Because Jesus

[Potoooooooo]

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/28142401/doctor-refuses-treatment-of-same-sex-couples-baby

Last September when the expectant mothers first met Dr. Vesna Roi at Eastlake Pediatrics in Roseville. She was recommended by their midwife. "We were really happy with her," Krista said. "The kind of care she offered, we liked her personality, she seemed pretty friendly. She seemed pretty straight up with us." The Contrerasas were told to make an appointment with Roi once Bay arrived. The baby was born at home and when she was six days old - they went in. But instead of seeing Dr. Roi, another doctor greeted them.

"The first thing Dr. Karam said was 'I'll be your doctor, I'll be seeing you today because Dr. Roi decided this morning that she prayed on it and she won't be able to care for Bay," Jami said. "Dr. Karam told us she didn't even come to the office that morning because she didn't want to see us." The new mothers were shocked, hurt and angry. "It was embarrassing, it was humiliating and here we are, new parents trying to protect her," Jami said. "And we know this happens in the world and we're completely prepared for this to happen other places. But not at our six-day-old's wellness appointment."

 

[Tom Sawyer]

That's no big deal. Just take away her medical licence and allow her to be martyred for her faith.

 

[Metaphor]

How do you expect a good Christian to react to a baby with the cajones to choose lezza parents? If Bay wanted to be treated like a normal baby she ought to have had normal parents.

 

[Draconis]

It's not the child's fault - not as if there really is any fault on their part.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The story sounds so bogus, but there doesn't appear to be any contradicting claims. Why would they be so up front about a fellow doctor not treating them because of their religion? Usually one would BS up an excuse.

 

[ksen]

If baby jesus were alive today he probably wouldn't be able to get a christian doctor either . . . being born out of wedlock and all.

 

[Keith&Co.]

If baby jesus were alive today he probably wouldn't be able to get a christian doctor either . . . being born out of wedlock and all.

Hey, that's an interesting point... If Joseph and Mary were betrothed, but had not yet wed nor consumated their marriage, why were they alone together without a chaperone?

For members of a culture with arranged marriages where the two might not meet until the ceremony, isn't this kind of odd?

I know if i'd taken Cindy to Boise for, um, uh, a census, and brought her back pregnant, Mr. Adams' first thought would NOT have been 'Wow! She must have been blessed by the Lord!'

 

[Keith&Co.]

Why would they be so up front about a fellow doctor not treating them because of their religion?

They probably assumed that the lesbian couple would be used to such treatment. "Well, Doc's a Christain and you two are, as you may have noticed, offensive filth. I'm sure it's not the first time this has happened, eh?"

 

[Perspicuo]

Oathbreaking physicians make baby Aesculapius cry.



Apollo entrusts his son Asklepios
to the centaur Chiron

 

[AthenaAwakened]

The story sounds so bogus, but there doesn't appear to be any contradicting claims. Why would they be so up front about a fellow doctor not treating them because of their religion? Usually one would BS up an excuse.

Why?

The doctor is just exercising "freedom of religion", so why not just say so? If Hobby Lobby has freedom of religion, surely a physician has it too.

And i am sure the doctor, along with a host of sympathetic christian organizations, are all ready to say so in a court of law.

 

[ksen]

Jesus did make it very clear that we should only feed the righteous hungry and take care of the righteous poor.

lol, who am I kidding? If the hungry and poors were righteous they wouldn't be hungry or poor.

 

[laughing dog]

I believe there are openings for anus inspectors in Egypt. I nominate Dr. Roi for one of the positions.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Am I the only one that finds the irony in a Christian doctor who's last name is shared with the "God who sees" El Roi, as noted in Genesis 16?

The story sounds so bogus, but there doesn't appear to be any contradicting claims. Why would they be so up front about a fellow doctor not treating them because of their religion? Usually one would BS up an excuse.

Why?

The doctor is just exercising "freedom of religion", so why not just say so? If Hobby Lobby has freedom of religion, surely a physician has it too.

CYA is one of the foundations of every business plan. Saying religion is the reason for not seeing a child is not CYA'ing very well.

And i am sure the doctor, along with a host of sympathetic christian organizations, are all ready to say so in a court of law.

What was said was rather blunt and that bluntness isn't expected in a professional field. Bakery fine, Doctor's Office? Not so much. What I'm more confused about is why the Doctor's office allowed her to not see the child, I mean newborn.

 

[Keith&Co.]

What was said was rather blunt and that bluntness isn't expected in a professional field.

I just keep thinking of 'Inherit The Wind.' Where they prompted a guy to break the law and teach evolution JUST so they could make their case in court, expecting to be vindicated.

I wouldn't be surprised if Doc Roi was okay with treating the baby until someone else convinced her that GAWD wants her to make a stand on the same-secks-marriage issue, and make it clear so they can force the issue in court, so other professionals can benefit from establishing they can just say NO! to consenting adults acting IAW the law, but offending baby Jesus.

 

[ZiprHead]

I'm wondering if the other doctor thought it was a shit move on the part of the first doctor so he just told the truth.

 

[ronburgundy]

On the bright side, before the doctor did this, she was already an irrational nut job willing to apply her faith to her medical profession, so it is good that she isn't their doctor anymore, and other patients can now find out and switch from this dangerous nutjob. A side benefit of allowing people to say and do such things is that it identifies incompetent assholes who you probably shouldn't be around or do business with anyway.
Forcing them to hide their views and be dishonest about their motives for their actions doesn't make them less dangerous or bigoted.
In a world where she is the only doctor available, forcing her to treat those patients makes sense. In a world where there are other options, such force has little benefit outside of symbolic justice and could produce harmful effects because it merely forces the person to be dishonest and robs others of useful information in making their business and consumer choices.

OTOH, I think that this doctor's willingness to rely on faith and prayer in her medical practice, call into question her competence as a practitioner of science based medicine, which is what a medical license represents. That doesn't really argue for forcing her to comply but rather argues for revoking her license for even attempting not to treat these patients, even if she agrees to comply under threat (i.e. competent doctors do not need to be threatened to make science based decisions).

 

[Keith&Co.]

On the bright side, before the doctor did this, she was already an irrational nut job willing to apply her faith to her medical profession, so it is good that she isn't their doctor anymore, and other patients can now find out and switch from this dangerous nutjob. .

There's no evidence that she holds her religious beliefs higher than medical science in her professional dealings with babies. Just in her selection of patients to accept.

I mean, it's possible the midwife's recommendation was based on a nasty demon possession she saw the doctor cure, or how she improved someone's milk production with a lark's tongue cleansing ritual, but there's nothing here to indicate she's a nutjob.

 

[arkirk]

Would they really want their baby in THAT DOCTOR'S HANDS? You have to trust a doctor. It is more a problem the doctor has than the patient in this case. It is kind of sad. It could be a problem if too large a percentage of doctors had that doctor's life views. It is hard to say what the significance of this situation is and whether or not there should be actions taken against the doctor. At least the doctor let it be known what a nut job she was, but can you envision a situation where her actions could endanger or hurt someone?

 

[fromderinside]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned. Given the way Dr Roi responded I suggest the parents schedule appointments with that group every other day.

 

[credoconsolans]

On the bright side, before the doctor did this, she was already an irrational nut job willing to apply her faith to her medical profession, so it is good that she isn't their doctor anymore, and other patients can now find out and switch from this dangerous nutjob. A side benefit of allowing people to say and do such things is that it identifies incompetent assholes who you probably shouldn't be around or do business with anyway.
Forcing them to hide their views and be dishonest about their motives for their actions doesn't make them less dangerous or bigoted.
In a world where she is the only doctor available, forcing her to treat those patients makes sense. In a world where there are other options, such force has little benefit outside of symbolic justice and could produce harmful effects because it merely forces the person to be dishonest and robs others of useful information in making their business and consumer choices.

OTOH, I think that this doctor's willingness to rely on faith and prayer in her medical practice, call into question her competence as a practitioner of science based medicine, which is what a medical license represents. That doesn't really argue for forcing her to comply but rather argues for revoking her license for even attempting not to treat these patients, even if she agrees to comply under threat (i.e. competent doctors do not need to be threatened to make science based decisions).

What Ron said. While humiliating, they should be glad that a Jesus Jumper doctor isn't caring for their child. She might diagnose demons in some future illness.