Milwaukee, the new Ferguson?

[RavenSky]

Yes, that is exactly what you post on a regular basis. Glad you are starting to recognize that fact

And the OP is about the riots.

Obviously not, because even those who are not as fed up with you as I am are questioning your biased ranting and blaming.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

And the OP is about the riots.

But nobody is discussing the riots. Al Sharpton is not participating in the riots and his photo has been posted twice.

 

[Derec]

And the OP is about the riots.

But nobody is discussing the riots. Al Sharpton is not participating in the riots and his photo has been posted twice.

Well Ford started derailing from the beginning. And Sharpton was used as an example of black racists who get a pass.
Now we have blacks rioting, setting fires, looting and they get a pass as well in many quarters.

 

[RavenSky]

But nobody is discussing the riots. Al Sharpton is not participating in the riots and his photo has been posted twice.

Well Ford started derailing from the beginning...

No. YOU "derailed" from the beginning. If you had wanted this thread to be about the riots themselves, you should have kept all of your unsupported rantings about #BLM out of it.

 

[Derec]

No. YOU "derailed" from the beginning. If you had wanted this thread to be about the riots themselves, you should have kept all of your unsupported rantings about #BLM out of it.

I am still waiting for #BLMers to denounce Milwaukee race riots. Just like they denounced riots in Ferguson or Baltimore. NOT!

 

[RavenSky]

No. YOU "derailed" from the beginning. If you had wanted this thread to be about the riots themselves, you should have kept all of your unsupported rantings about #BLM out of it.

I am still waiting for #BLMers to denounce Milwaukee race riots. Just like they denounced riots in Ferguson or Baltimore. NOT!

It doesn't matter when or how or what they do because you refuse to acknowledge it anyway

 

[Derec]

No, that is simply not true. Shouting or yelling any particular slogan does not MEAN the shouter or yeller supports the particular movement.

If they are yelling a slogan associated with a movement (of the same name no less) how do you conclude they are not supporting the movement? Is it merely a coincidence they are chanting these three words in sequence?

If BLM is an amorphous movement how
1) does it receive milllions, and
2) do you know what it gets and what it doesn't?

Ask DeRay et al.

Riots are unacceptable regardless of the situation.

It took a while but at least we got that.

As to the rest of your questions, the answer to every single one of your leading questions is "In general no, but there are situations where it might be acceptable."

So you think there are situations where it is acceptable for blacks to attack whites? Or to throw bricks at police?

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It doesn't matter when or how or what they do because you refuse to acknowledge it anyway

If they were to do it I'd acknowledge it.

 

[RavenSky]

It doesn't matter when or how or what they do because you refuse to acknowledge it anyway

If they were to do it I'd acknowledge it.

False.

When you went apeshit about one of the mothers who appeared at the Democratic convention, going on and on with your typical rants about #BLM, I posted clips and quotes and links showing that the mothers who spoke denounced violence, denounced attacks on police officers, etc. You completely disregarded that to continue your anti-black-women, anti-#BLM rants.

Moreover, we have a long history of you completely ignoring anything and everything that disproves your dysphoric view of women and/or blacks.

 

[laughing dog]

If they are yelling a slogan associated with a movement (of the same name no less) how do you conclude they are not supporting the movement? Is it merely a coincidence they are chanting these three words in sequence?

It is a matter of disinterested reasoning - yelling any slogan does not mean one supports the movement. It simply may mean they agree with the sentiment not necessarily the "movement".

Ask DeRay et al.

You are the one making the claim. It is up to you to substantiate your literally contradictory and illogical claims, not me. Your link quotes Infowars. Come back when you have something from a credible source, not from the rightwing loonisphere. More importantly, it does not substantiate that some amorphorous organization gets millions from anyone - it "concentrates" on the case of Mr. McKeeson.

It took a while but at least we got that.

WTF are you babbling about - when have I or anyone else condoned riots or murders?

So you think there are situations where it is acceptable for blacks to attack whites? Or to throw bricks at police?

Of course. Your questions have no restrictions on the situation. How about when white people are going to lynch a black person? Or the police are trying to kill unarmed innocent civilians or are going to unknowingly do something that may cause an explosion.

 

[Derec]

It is a matter of disinterested reasoning - yelling any slogan does not mean one supports the movement. It simply may mean they agree with the sentiment not necessarily the "movement".

If they know that the slogan is that of a movement, and they most certainly do, then they know that yelling it marks them as supportive of the movement. If they merely wanted to express a similar sentiment without indicating support for the movement itself, why use that exact wording?

You are the one making the claim. It is up to you to substantiate your literally contradictory and illogical claims, not me. Your link quotes Infowars. Come back when you have something from a credible source, not from the rightwing loonisphere. More importantly, it does not substantiate that some amorphorous organization gets millions from anyone - it "concentrates" on the case of Mr. McKeeson.

McKeeson is one of the main beneficiaries of the left wing funding for #BLM related groups. I don't care if they mention InfoWars if the info is correct. Since DeRay ran for mayor his address is public record. And the residence is apparently owned by a Soros funded group.

WTF are you babbling about - when have I or anyone else condoned riots or murders?

I asked you about your position on the riots before and you ignored it.

Of course. Your questions have no restrictions on the situation. How about when white people are going to lynch a black person? Or the police are trying to kill unarmed innocent civilians or are going to unknowingly do something that may cause an explosion.

Those are way out there. And nothing like that applies here. The black rioters attacked innocent whites and they also threw bricks at police for no legitimate reason.

 

[Derec]

CNN misleadingly edits statement by Sylville Smith's sister. She was yelling how the rioters should not burn down stuff in their neighborhoods but should instead go to the suburbs and burn stuff there. CNN edited it to appear that she was "calling for peace". A new low surely.
CNN Selectively Edits Police Shooting Victim’s Sister’s Words to Protesters

 

[Derec]

When you went apeshit about one of the mothers who appeared at the Democratic convention,

Mother of Michael Brown, the original saint of the #BLM movement, who inspired the Ferguson race riots. Why was she invited to the DNC? Her son caused his own death. Are there no mothers of innocent victims of gun violence they could have invited?

going on and on with your typical rants about #BLM, I posted clips and quotes and links showing that the mothers who spoke denounced violence, denounced attacks on police officers, etc. You completely disregarded that to continue your anti-black-women, anti-#BLM rants.

I explained to you the problem I have with McSpadden being invited. Besides, she surely wasn't denouncing violence when she attacked and robbed other family members who were selling some Mike Brown merchandise. She also neglected to disagree with her husband when he was yelling to "burn this bitch down" even though she was standing right next to him.

So again, what qualifies her to stand at the stage at the DNC?


Besides, I never disputed that the declared purpose of "Mothers of the Movement" was to denounce gun violence. I disagreed that inviting the mother of Michael Brown, who initiated violence, was a smart choice.

Moreover, we have a long history of you completely ignoring anything and everything that disproves your dysphoric view of women and/or blacks.

Utter bullshit.

 

[JonA]

CNN misleadingly edits statement by Sylville Smith's sister. She was yelling how the rioters should not burn down stuff in their neighborhoods but should instead go to the suburbs and burn stuff there. CNN edited it to appear that she was "calling for peace". A new low surely.
CNN Selectively Edits Police Shooting Victim’s Sister’s Words to Protesters

Disturbing.

 

[laughing dog]

If they know that the slogan is that of a movement, and they most certainly do, then they know that yelling it marks them as supportive of the movement. If they merely wanted to express a similar sentiment without indicating support for the movement itself, why use that exact wording?

"Black lives matter" is clear and succinct, so why not?

Why do you feel the need to jump to conclusions?

McKeeson is one of the main beneficiaries of the left wing funding for #BLM related groups. I don't care if they mention InfoWars if the info is correct. Since DeRay ran for mayor his address is public record. And the residence is apparently owned by a Soros funded group.

You made a claim about an "amorphorus group" not McKeeson. You used a site that quotes fucking INFOWARS as a source. Why should anyone take your claims seriously when you cannot substantiate them?

I asked you about your position on the riots before and you ignored it.

No, you did not.

Those are way out there. And nothing like that applies here. The black rioters attacked innocent whites and they also threw bricks at police for no legitimate reason.

I am not responsible for your poorly worded questions - you are.

Early in this thread you claimed you were worried about the poor race relations in the USA. One of major contributing factors to those poor relations is that people of all races and ideologies jumping to conclusions without a shred of evidence. Another major contributing factor to those poor relations is people of all races and ideologies making accusations without a shred of evidence. Perhaps if those people (like you) waited for actual evidence before making wild claims and accusations, race relations might improve over time.

 

[Ford]

I don't love "the blacks" any more or less than any other group. But it does pain me that the race relations are so poor these days.

Yeah, I'm sure you weep every night for black people.

 

[whichphilosophy]

I believe the sensible thing is to organise peaceful protests, sign petitions and in conjunction with any inquiries take legal action. It's senseless to destroy innocent shopkeepers' businesses. They're not to blame.

 

[dismal]

It's senseless to destroy innocent shopkeepers' businesses. They're not to blame.

Right, you gotta take that shit to the suburbs.

 

[Derec]

I believe the sensible thing is to organise peaceful protests, sign petitions and in conjunction with any inquiries take legal action.

Peacefully protesting and signing petitions would be sensible if there was something to protest. In this case an armed thug was shot because he refused to drop his gun. Justified shooting, one thug less in the world. Not bad.

This is Sylville Smith, the guy all this race rioting is about.
Man killed by Milwaukee police had lengthy record

Nice pigtails though ...

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Yeah, I'm sure you weep every night for black people.

Well I don't weep every night for any racial group.

 

[laughing dog]

Peacefully protesting and signing petitions would be sensible if there was something to protest.

The shooting was the spark that lit the fire of rioting - the conditions were developed long before the shooting.

In this case an armed thug was shot because he refused to drop his gun. Justified shooting, one thug less in the world. Not bad.

This is Sylville Smith, the guy all this race rioting is about.
Man killed by Milwaukee police had lengthy record

Nice pigtails though ...

You really are only fooling yourself with that type of response.

 

[Derec]

The shooting was the spark that lit the fire of rioting - the conditions were developed long before the shooting.

What conditions? And conditions created and maintained by whom? Milwaukee only had Democratic mayors since 1960. Before that they had a Socialist mayor, Frank Zeidler, and there were two other Socialist mayors before him. The last Republican mayor of Milwaukee left office in 1908. I guess it must be his fault somehow.

You really are only fooling yourself with that type of response.

I am not trying to fool anybody, unlike you.