More Black Lives Matter hits

[laughing dog]

Not going to apologize for it. While tentative and subject to future revision, it was a fair statement given data available at the time.

It would be a fair statement for a racist or a bigot or a fear-mongerer. But making jumping to such outlandish conclusions on such little information is really a jackass move.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

1. Based on timing of similar such attacks by black radicals, yes.
2. When one has little information, probabilistic statements are entirely appropriate. Of course any assessments are tentative and subject to revision as more data comes in.

An inmate going to court grabs an officers gun and kills people in a courthouse, absolutely no other information is known about it, and in your mind it has to be #BLM related.

Nobody said it had to be #BLM related. Unfortunately we won't be able to ask him directly as to his motives though.

No words... should have sent a poet.

 

[ksen]

I agree with derec that the only responsible thing to do is to disarm cops so they aren't in any more danger of having their guns stolen and used on them.

Why do bailiffs have guns?

So the blacks don't rise up.

 

[Derec]

So the blacks don't rise up.

And I guess you would support such an "uprising"?
 Marin County Courthouse Incident

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It would be a fair statement for a racist or a bigot or a fear-mongerer. But making jumping to such outlandish conclusions on such little information is really a jackass move.

Nothing outlandish due to the wave of anti-police attacks motivated by #BLM. Dallas shooting, police in Minnesota and Baton Rouge attacked by "peaceful protesters", that guy breaking into a cop's house because of #BLM, multiple death threats, etc.

 

[Derec]

Why do bailiffs have guns?

To provide security I would say. There have been instances of armed thugs attacking courthouses.

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Why do bailiffs have guns?

To provide security I would say. There have been instances of armed thugs attacking courthouses.

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I agree with derec that the only responsible thing to do is to disarm cops so they aren't in any more danger of having their guns stolen and used on them.

BS. Rather, police and other armed LEOs should use deadly force when a perp attempts to take an officer's gun.

 

[ksen]

And I guess you would support such an "uprising"?
 Marin County Courthouse Incident

I was the lookout.

 

[Derec]

So a person that gets pulled over when driving is a perp?

Anybody who tries to take a cop's gun is a perp. What does driving and getting pulled over have to do with anything?

 

[laughing dog]

Nothing outlandish due to the wave of anti-police attacks motivated by #BLM. Dallas shooting, police in Minnesota and Baton Rouge attacked by "peaceful protesters", that guy breaking into a cop's house because of #BLM, multiple death threats, etc.

The police in Mn do not consider the protest to be caused or inspired by BLM. In fact, a spokesperson said that a BLM leader in Mn was trying to stop the violence. There is no evidence that the lone gunman in Dallas was inspired by the BLM. Your inaccurate response simply provides evidence that my observations of
1) It would be a fair statement for a racist or a bigot or a fear-mongerer, and
2) jumping to such outlandish conclusions on such little information is really a jackass move,
are accurate,

 

[AthenaAwakened]

I obviously did not. Of course there are many white #BLM supporters (just look at this board) so that by itself would not disprove the #BLM angle.

Besides, another reason why this case is relevant is that it shows the danger of perps (regardless of race) getting control of an officer's gun. That's why #BLM were so wrong in the case of Jamar Clark for example.

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Had you known the shooter was a 44 year old white man, would you have started this thread?

 

[Derec]

Had you known the shooter was a 44 year old white man, would you have started this thread?

Yes. I started the thread with two different stories - the home intruder who was shot and who had a #BLM argument with the homeowner/cop who shot him and several people arrested over #BLM motivated death threats.

 

[KeepTalking]

1. Based on timing of similar such attacks by black radicals, yes.

Bullshit. The guy was in jail in an entirely different state. There is no reason to think he even knew about the attacks in Texas.

2. When one has little information, probabilistic statements are entirely appropriate. Of course any assessments are tentative and subject to revision as more data comes in.

The statement you made only shows your bias. You automatically assumed that the inmate was black, and that he also supported #BLM with absolutely no information to indicate that either one of these things was true. Given the timing, and inmate making a court appearance, the most probable scenario was that this was an escape attempt. Unfortunately, you are so afraid of black men and #BLM supporters that blaming them is the first thing you did.

An inmate going to court grabs an officers gun and kills people in a courthouse, absolutely no other information is known about it, and in your mind it has to be #BLM related.

Nobody said it had to be #BLM related. Unfortunately we won't be able to ask him directly as to his motives though.

And you still think this is possibly #BLM related? Un-fucking-believable.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Bullshit. The guy was in jail in an entirely different state. There is no reason to think he even knew about the attacks in Texas.

2. When one has little information, probabilistic statements are entirely appropriate. Of course any assessments are tentative and subject to revision as more data comes in.

The statement you made only shows your bias. You automatically assumed that the inmate was black, and that he also supported #BLM with absolutely no information to indicate that either one of these things was true. Given the timing, and inmate making a court appearance, the most probable scenario was that this was an escape attempt. Unfortunately, you are so afraid of black men and #BLM supporters that blaming them is the first thing you did.

An inmate going to court grabs an officers gun and kills people in a courthouse, absolutely no other information is known about it, and in your mind it has to be #BLM related.

Nobody said it had to be #BLM related. Unfortunately we won't be able to ask him directly as to his motives though.

And you still think this is possibly #BLM related? Un-fucking-believable.

Derec has to think that this is BLM related because he didn't just step out on that limb, he friggin' ran out on it with a bullhorn and sparklers.

 

[Derec]

Bullshit. The guy was in jail in an entirely different state. There is no reason to think he even knew about the attacks in Texas.

Anti-police attacks were happening in different states, and there were #BLM threats against police in Michigan itself.
Detroit police arrest four for threats against cops

The statement you made only shows your bias. You automatically assumed that the inmate was black, and that he also supported #BLM with absolutely no information to indicate that either one of these things was true. Given the timing, and inmate making a court appearance, the most probable scenario was that this was an escape attempt. Unfortunately, you are so afraid of black men and #BLM supporters that blaming them is the first thing you did.

Initial reports did not even identify him as an inmate.

And you still think this is possibly #BLM related? Un-fucking-believable.

I think it's very unlikely at this point.

 

[Derec]

ran out on it with a bullhorn and sparklers.

That sounds more the style of that #BLM woman(?) who blocked the Toronto Gay Pride Parade.

 

[KeepTalking]

Anti-police attacks were happening in different states, and there were #BLM threats against police in Michigan itself.
Detroit police arrest four for threats against cops

This person was in jail, what makes you think he was aware of any of this going on?

The statement you made only shows your bias. You automatically assumed that the inmate was black, and that he also supported #BLM with absolutely no information to indicate that either one of these things was true. Given the timing, and inmate making a court appearance, the most probable scenario was that this was an escape attempt. Unfortunately, you are so afraid of black men and #BLM supporters that blaming them is the first thing you did.

Initial reports did not even identify him as an inmate.

The report you linked to did identify him as an inmate at the time. That was about the only information about him that was included in the article.

And you still think this is possibly #BLM related? Un-fucking-believable.

I think it's very unlikely at this point.

It was very unlikely to begin with, now there is no room for anyone to believe that it is a possibility, but you have so much hatred for #BLM that you just can't let it go.

 

[laughing dog]

Initial reports did not even identify him as an inmate.

Which made your accusation even less rational.

I think it's very unlikely at this point.

"Very unlikely"? As in, it is still possible? You are not fooling anyone but yourself here.

 

[Malintent]

I obviously did not. Of course there are many white #BLM supporters (just look at this board) so that by itself would not disprove the #BLM angle.

Besides, another reason why this case is relevant is that it shows the danger of perps (regardless of race) getting control of an officer's gun.

So a person that gets pulled over when driving is a perp?

The correct term would be "detained suspect"

 

[Malintent]

The other side of this is if the police begin to feel their lives are at greater danger they may work to regulate better when cops are using deadly force.

Sadly, I think Malintent has a finger on the pulse of most of the USA on this. Rather than view this escalation as a real longstanding issue in police-community relations that requires the establishment of mutual trust and respect, much of the police will double down on the violence which will be welcomed and endorsed by the racists, and kneejerk apologists for the police and the ironic "law and order" crowds.

Don't ya hate it when you just have to agree with me on some point? I think you said this well... kneejerk reactions versus improving police-community relations... yes, that is exactly the problem BLM may be causing.

 

[laughing dog]

Sadly, I think Malintent has a finger on the pulse of most of the USA on this. Rather than view this escalation as a real longstanding issue in police-community relations that requires the establishment of mutual trust and respect, much of the police will double down on the violence which will be welcomed and endorsed by the racists, and kneejerk apologists for the police and the ironic "law and order" crowds.

Don't ya hate it when you just have to agree with me on some point? I think you said this well... kneejerk reactions versus improving police-community relations... yes, that is exactly the problem BLM may be causing.

The jerks who kneejerk are responsible for their over-reactions.

 

[Derec]

I thinks this qualifies as yet another Black Lives Matter hit.

This picture was shared by a Cleveland Browns player. I think they should sack him.