Angra Mainyu
Veteran Member
Let us consider the following two scenarios.
S1: Let us suppose that Bob and Alice live in an isolated rural community, and have never heard of giraffes, moluscs, squids, elephants, or any of those things. But they meet Daniel, who is not from their community. In the context of their conversations, they have the following exchange (in which both Alice and Bob are being sincere).
Daniel: A giraffe is not a mollusc.
Daniel: Tom is either a squid or a giraffe.
Daniel: Tom is a mollusc.
Alice: I get it. Tom is a squid.
Bob: You don't know that.
Alice: Well, I'm saying that on the basis of what Daniel said, Tom is a squid. I do not know whether Daniel is mistaken or pulling our legs - no offense, Daniel -, but on the basis of what he said, Tom is a squid.
Bob: No, you shouldn't make that assessment on the basis of the information given by Daniel.
Alice: You are not reasoning properly, Bob.
S2: Let us suppose that Bob and Alice live in an isolated rural community, and have never heard of giraffes, moluscs, squids, elephants, or any of those things. But they meet Daniel, who is not from their community. In the context of their conversations, they have the following exchange (in which both Alice and Bob are being sincere).
Daniel: A giraffe is not a elephant.
Daniel: Tom is either a squid or a giraffe.
Daniel: Tom is an elephant.
Alice: I get it. Tom is a squid.
Bob: You don't know that.
Alice: Well, I'm saying that on the basis of what Daniel said, Tom is a squid. I do not know whether Daniel is mistaken or pulling our legs - no offense, Daniel -, but on the basis of what he said, Tom is a squid.
Bob: No, you shouldn't make that assessment on the basis of the information given by Daniel.
Alice: You are not reasoning properly, Bob.
So, who is reasoning properly in these scenarios? Alice or Bob? Or neither? Or is it one on each scenario? What do you think?
S1: Let us suppose that Bob and Alice live in an isolated rural community, and have never heard of giraffes, moluscs, squids, elephants, or any of those things. But they meet Daniel, who is not from their community. In the context of their conversations, they have the following exchange (in which both Alice and Bob are being sincere).
Daniel: A giraffe is not a mollusc.
Daniel: Tom is either a squid or a giraffe.
Daniel: Tom is a mollusc.
Alice: I get it. Tom is a squid.
Bob: You don't know that.
Alice: Well, I'm saying that on the basis of what Daniel said, Tom is a squid. I do not know whether Daniel is mistaken or pulling our legs - no offense, Daniel -, but on the basis of what he said, Tom is a squid.
Bob: No, you shouldn't make that assessment on the basis of the information given by Daniel.
Alice: You are not reasoning properly, Bob.
S2: Let us suppose that Bob and Alice live in an isolated rural community, and have never heard of giraffes, moluscs, squids, elephants, or any of those things. But they meet Daniel, who is not from their community. In the context of their conversations, they have the following exchange (in which both Alice and Bob are being sincere).
Daniel: A giraffe is not a elephant.
Daniel: Tom is either a squid or a giraffe.
Daniel: Tom is an elephant.
Alice: I get it. Tom is a squid.
Bob: You don't know that.
Alice: Well, I'm saying that on the basis of what Daniel said, Tom is a squid. I do not know whether Daniel is mistaken or pulling our legs - no offense, Daniel -, but on the basis of what he said, Tom is a squid.
Bob: No, you shouldn't make that assessment on the basis of the information given by Daniel.
Alice: You are not reasoning properly, Bob.
So, who is reasoning properly in these scenarios? Alice or Bob? Or neither? Or is it one on each scenario? What do you think?
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