Are you talking about me? I don't support racial discrimination or religious bigotry of any kind. I don't accept special pleading, either. And I don't believe in burying unpleasant truths under a pile of hippy-dippy fairy tales and bullshit.
The Zionists who fought to establish a Jewish State in the Middle East weren't ashamed of what they did. They spoke plainly about what they were doing and why. IMO if you're going to defend what they did you should at least read
what they had to say about it.
This hate existed long before a Jewish state was declared.
"We are of the same race and blood, and cooperation will bring great prosperity to the land," wrote Emir Faisal to Felix Frankfurter in 1917. Faisal was known for his affinity to the Zionists who had begun streaming to the Holy Land; in 1919, he signed a cooperation agreement with Chaim Weizmann, to whom he wrote that he was "mindful of the racial kinship and ancient bonds existing between the Arabs and the Jewish people." But Faisal's proclamations of kinship with the Jews were more than lip service to a commonly held belief, says Tsvi Misinai, who knows perhaps more about the origins of the modern Palestinians than anyone. "Faisal's paternal line was Hashemite," he says, "meaning he was directly descended from Muhammad. But the mother of his maternal grandfather, King On, was descended from a family of forced Jewish converts to Islam that immigrated to the east bank of the Jordan, later returning to one of the villages west of the Jordan. Unlike today, when Faisal was growing up, his grandfather's mother's Jewish origin was known, and they made no great effort to hide it. And what was known to Faisal is known to many Palestinians today as well." This is a story of what may be one of the best-kept secrets in history - one that could, in time, heal the terrible rift that has torn the Land of Israel asunder. After years of research, Misinai says that he can declare with certainty that nearly 90 percent of all Palestinians are descended from the Jews. "And what's more, about half of them know it," he says.....
..... Misinai is far from the first researcher to have stumbled upon this historical find. The first president of Israel, Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, and the first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, wrote several books and articles on the subject. In fact, Ben-Gurion believed so strongly in the idea that in 1956 he set up a task force headed by Moshe Dayan and Haim Levkov (the Palmah's "point man" among the Arabs of Israel, he worked with Yigal Allon to set up the Trackers' Unit, traditionally the domain of Negev Beduin), that was supposed to develop ways to "Judaize" the Beduin, teaching them something about modern Jewish life and tradition to integrate them with the Israeli people, ethnically if not religiously.
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It really is a shame that marriages between Jews, Christians, and Muslims in the lands around Jerusalem have become so rare nowadays that people have no idea it used to be commonplace. But 100 years ago, before the massive immigration of Europeans and the big push to claim a huge chunk of real estate for an exclusively Jewish State, the people who lived there got along pretty well regardless of which version of the Abrahamic faith they followed. I truly believe they can do it again, if they can get the racists and bigots off center stage and let the more rational folks work out something fair to everyone.
Zionist were trying to create a Jewish state, not massacre Palestinians.
It's true most, if not all, would have preferred to establish their State without massacring people. But it's also true they were willing to massacre people to achieve their goal, and in fact some of them did massacre people. The worst of the lot, the Irgun and the Stern Gang, were quite willing to murder unarmed civilians, as they proved time and again.
It's they who want to push Israel into the sea.
That "drive them into the sea" quote appears to have been said by an Egyptian who never lived in Palestine and never represented the Palestinian people. But even if it accurately describes what Palestinians want to do to Israelis, what do the Israelis want to do to Palestinians? It's pretty obvious the trend has been to drive them off any valuable land they might still have and into desert slums and shantytowns. That's not any better, you know.
Who is that provides medical, electricity, clean drinking water, and billions of dollars in aid to the Palestinians?
You make it sound as though the Israelis are doing the Palestinians some kind of favor. But who is it that won't allow the Palestinians to provide those things for themselves? Who is it that won't allow the Palestinians to retain their land, water, and mineral rights, sell their goods without interference, or conduct their affairs as they see fit?
We here in the US know from our own history that people forcibly displaced from their homeland, penned in on reservations, and kept dependent of the federal government for basic goods and services, are basically screwed. Don't even bother trying to sell me a line about the kindness of Israelis, generously allowing the Palestinians to receive water from Palestinian aquifers while the Israelis keep a mere 80% for their own use. We have that same kind of "generosity" here in the Southwest, and it's shameful.
