NASA Releases Stunning 4K Video of Apollo 13 Views of the Moon, Ending All Conspiracy Theories

[ZiprHead]

 

[skepticalbip]

CGI that didn't even show the alien Moon bases on the far side.

 

[steve_bank]

It appears NASAios a bunch of drama queens with the sound track.

Amazing what you can do with old images when you digitize them. Easy to erase those ET bases.

 

[rjh01]

Was it taken by Apollo 13 crew or was it the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter? The opening scene says

Data from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft now makes it possible to show what the Apollo 13 astronauts saw as they flew around the far side of the Moon.

It is stunning footage whatever it is.

The description says

This video uses data gathered from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft to recreate some of the stunning views of the Moon that the Apollo 13 astronauts saw on their perilous journey around the farside in 1970. These visualizations, in 4K resolution, depict many different views of the lunar surface, starting with earthset and sunrise and concluding with the time Apollo 13 reestablished radio contact with Mission Control. Also depicted is the path of the free return trajectory around the Moon, and a continuous view of the Moon throughout that path. All views have been sped up for timing purposes — they are not shown in "real-time."

 

[thebeave]

Neat video and stunning images, but this contributes nothing to debunking all the moon landing conspiracy theories. There are still people who think the universe is 6000 years old and/or that the earth is flat, despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise. Advances in CGI and deep fake technology probably make debunking conspiracy theories even harder these days, as the true believers can reasonably claim that images were completely fabricated out of whole cloth.

Here's Nixon giving a deepfake speech on the "failure" of the Apollo 11 mission:

 

[Tigers!]

Those LGM really are little

 

[Jarhyn]

Neat video and stunning images, but this contributes nothing to debunking all the moon landing conspiracy theories. There are still people who think the universe is 6000 years old and/or that the earth is flat, despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise. Advances in CGI and deep fake technology probably make debunking conspiracy theories even harder these days, as the true believers can reasonably claim that images were completely fabricated out of whole cloth.

Here's Nixon giving a deepfake speech on the "failure" of the Apollo 11 mission:

This is honestly why I think point-of-collection frame signing and series signing is probably the future: validated video.

The idea would be simple: have a video collector that is designed in such a way that it does exactly two things with purpose-built hardware: sign, via asymmetric encryption, a "signature" onto each frame of video with an arbitrary private key, and place the raw, unedited, frame alongside that signature in a "box" (buffer/queue) to be saved to disk.

Do the same with the audio data.

Write the signature reel of both with the rest of the video. Have committed the public key to a blockchain with it's "signing history". Commit the signed hash of the whole video to the block chain.

This lets you say "this is my key, it's the one that was installed with the camera. Look, the certificate itself is even signed by this authority saying they promise that it's the original manufacturer key or whatever. This is a signed hash of all signed frames of that video".

After that you can prove that this is the video stream passed from the collection hardware off to the output, and that no frame of that video has been tampered with in any way.

You would need to do ugly things to that to make it tell lies. It would mean that a reporter could prove his footage is real. Probably NASA too.

 

[bilby]

Neat video and stunning images, but this contributes nothing to debunking all the moon landing conspiracy theories. There are still people who think the universe is 6000 years old and/or that the earth is flat, despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise. Advances in CGI and deep fake technology probably make debunking conspiracy theories even harder these days, as the true believers can reasonably claim that images were completely fabricated out of whole cloth.

Here's Nixon giving a deepfake speech on the "failure" of the Apollo 11 mission:

This is honestly why I think point-of-collection frame signing and series signing is probably the future: validated video.

The idea would be simple: have a video collector that is designed in such a way that it does exactly two things with purpose-built hardware: sign, via asymmetric encryption, a "signature" onto each frame of video with an arbitrary private key, and place the raw, unedited, frame alongside that signature in a "box" (buffer/queue) to be saved to disk.

Do the same with the audio data.

Write the signature reel of both with the rest of the video. Have committed the public key to a blockchain with it's "signing history". Commit the signed hash of the whole video to the block chain.

This lets you say "this is my key, it's the one that was installed with the camera. Look, the certificate itself is even signed by this authority saying they promise that it's the original manufacturer key or whatever. This is a signed hash of all signed frames of that video".

After that you can prove that this is the video stream passed from the collection hardware off to the output, and that no frame of that video has been tampered with in any way.

You would need to do ugly things to that to make it tell lies. It would mean that a reporter could prove his footage is real. Probably NASA too.

That's a completely useless solution. People who could benefit from it mostly couldn't understand why or how it helps them, and those who do understand probably don't need that help.

The actual solution cannot be a technical one; It's a social problem with a social solution - people need to start to understand that video is easily faked, and therefore to stop trusting it.

Given that other communications have been easily made to tell lies, typically since shortly after their first use (including, and going all the way back to, speech), this shouldn't be difficult - but in reality, people are lied to constantly and always have been, and seem to get no better at detecting the fact.

The idea that cameras 'never lie' is a recent one, and the truth of the idea was very short-lived.

Making any medium trustworthy by technical means just undermines the importance of not trusting anyone. We need a society that is skeptical, not a technical mechanism to support and enable their gullibility.

 

[DBT]

Releasing a fake 4K video is just another step in the Grand Conspiracy to deceive us all and usher in a World Government and imprint us with the mark of the beast, our Reptilian OverLords are mighty sneaky, don'tcha all know.