Split New York City Mayoral Race

[No Robots]

Peter Coviello, former chair of Africana Studies at Bowdoin College on Mamdani, socialism and the NYT (hat tip to Metafilter):

For some time I’ve been saying that the storied choice between socialism and barbarism was made exquisitely clear a good many years ago in the United States, and both major parties chose barbarism. They are obviously and consequentially different barbarisms—one had reproductive freedom, vaccines, and trans health care in it, at least for a while—and I can tell you why I have sincerely preferred one to the other. But we oughtn’t to kid ourselves. From the perspective of a world of increasingly unimaginable maldistribution of resources, cascading ecological collapse, a genocide cheered on by a putatively liberal order, both are barbarisms. Mamdani seemed to me a small glimmering break in the wall of all that.—"Maybe Don’t Talk to the New York Times About Zohran Mamdani”

Glad to see NYC choose socialism over barbarism.

 

[Arctish]

BDSers are treating Israel different than all other countries precisely because it's the only Jewish apartheid state.

FYP

The current BDS movement is using the same strategy of boycotts, divestments, and sanctions that were used to pressure South Africa in the 1980s and 1990s for the same reason - to end apartheid.

I'm sure if some other group of racists and bigots create an apartheid state, or a territory in which apartheid policies are enforced, there will eventually be pushback, most likely in the form of another BDS movement. As far as non-violent strategies go, it appears to be a pretty good one.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Learn some history,   Arabic numbers.

I know the history, so there is no need to be condescending. Same goes for GenesisNemesis, bilby and Elixir with their ignorant piling-on.

Your response hid that knowledge well.

My point was that regardless of history (and I am aware that the place-value system came to Europe via Arabs) the European digits which are now in international use are sufficiently different from actual Arabic numbers (as seen on the obverse of that 50 (or ٥٠ in Arabic numerals) riyal note) that they really should not be referred as Arabic.
And if you really want to honor history, we'd call them Indian numerals, since the positional system originated there, not in Arabia.

Until your crusade to defeat the Muslim “misnomer” of “Arabic” numbers succeeds, there is no useful point to your pedantry.

Well, when he’s done with that he can move on to Latin America, the West Indies, and even the American Midwest.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

BDSers are treating Israel different than all other countries precisely because it's the only Jewish apartheid state.

FYP

The current BDS movement is using the same strategy of boycotts, divestments, and sanctions that were used to pressure South Africa in the 1980s and 1990s for the same reason - to end apartheid.

I'm sure if some other group of racists and bigots create an apartheid state, or a territory in which apartheid policies are enforced, there will eventually be pushback, most likely in the form of another BDS movement. As far as non-violent strategies go, it appears to be a pretty good one.

Also Israel is allied with the U.S. Would U.S. citizens in general care as much about it if it wasn't? I don't think so.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Derec]

Well, when he’s done with that he can move on to Latin America, the West Indies, and even the American Midwest.

How is Latin America a misnomer? Although technically it should include Quebec.

 

[Derec]

I think it's the math. If they knew the importance of the concept of zero to advanced calculations and stuff like that, they'd not be so fast to belittle the sand niggers for their handwriting.

Yeah, because the importance of zero in the positional number system is so well understood by leftists.

 

[Derec]

Your response hid that knowledge well.

Your lack of reading comprehension made you not see what's in plain sight.

Until your crusade to defeat the Muslim “misnomer” of “Arabic” numbers succeeds, there is no useful point to your pedantry.

I was responding to mindless Islamophilia of your post I was replying to.

 

[Derec]

Since he has repeatedly said Israel has the right to exist, you exaggerate.

I do not exaggerate. For example, he refused to condemn the slogan "globalize the Intifada", which refers to Palestinian terrorism against Israel. He is a big supporter of BDS (aka "kauft nicht bei Juden") and has also founded the SJP chapter at his posh college. SJP is one of the most radical anti-Israel groups in the US.

He hedged on the issue of Israel's right to exist, and seems to support the Muslim/Arab dominated "One State [Final] Solution".

 

[laughing dog]

Your response hid that knowledge well.

Your lack of reading comprehension made you not see what's in plain sight.

I posted joke that you persistently attempt to “rebut” with pedantic twaddle.

Until your crusade to defeat the Muslim “misnomer” of “Arabic” numbers succeeds, there is no useful point to your pedantry.

I was responding to mindless Islamophilia of your post I was replying to.

“Islamophilia” is posting factual history?

Your response is so inane that it causes concern. Are you well?

 

[laughing dog]

Since he has repeatedly said Israel has the right to exist, you exaggerate.

I do not exaggerate. For example, he refused to condemn the slogan "globalize the Intifada", which refers to Palestinian terrorism against Israel. He is a big supporter of BDS (aka "kauft nicht bei Juden") and has also founded the SJP chapter at his posh college. SJP is one of the most radical anti-Israel groups in the US.

He hedged on the issue of Israel's right to exist, and seems to support the Muslim/Arab dominated "One State [Final] Solution".

Being pro-Palestinian does not necessarily equate to hating Israel just like being pro-Israeli does not necessarily equate to hating Palestinians.

 

[Derec]

Of course there is. The International Criminal Court has issued a warrant for the bastard’s arrest.

What authority does the NYC mayor have to enforce warrants issued by a foreign court?

US is not a signatory to the ICC, and as it turns out, for a very good reason.

 

[Derec]

Being pro-Palestinian does not necessarily equate to hating Israel just like being pro-Israeli does not necessarily equate to hating Palestinians.

In principle, you are right. But SJP and BDS show that he also hates Israel.

 

[Derec]

“Islamophilia” is posting factual history?

You are trying to dismiss the real threat of Islamism with a simplistic take on a history from a 1000 years ago.

Your response is so inane that it causes concern. Are you well?

Inanity is all on your side. Are you well?

 

[laughing dog]

Being pro-Palestinian does not necessarily equate to hating Israel just like being pro-Israeli does not necessarily equate to hating Palestinians.

In principle, you are right. But SJP and BDS show that he also hates Israel.

How does it show he hates Israel?

 

[Derec]

How does it show he hates Israel?

Read up on SJP and BDS and then come back.

 

[laughing dog]

“Islamophilia” is posting factual history?

You are trying to dismiss the real threat of Islamism with a simplistic take on a history from a 1000 years ago.

I was making fun of your concerns about the threat of Islamism. That does mot imply any “philia” about Islam.

On the other hand, Christian Nationalism is a demonstrable rising threat in the US to which you are silent.

Your response is so inane that it causes concern. Are you well?

Inanity is all on your side. Are you well?

I am serious. While we may disagree, I haven’t seen such inanity in your responses. That madd me wonder about your health.

 

[laughing dog]

How does it show he hates Israel?

Read up on SJP and BDS and then come back.

I have. Show your work if you can.

 

[Derec]

I was making fun of your concerns about the threat of Islamism. That does mot imply any “philia” about Islam.

"Because some Muslim guy 1000 years ago invented Algebra we do not need to worry about Islamism today" is not a sane response.

On the other hand, Christian Nationalism is a demonstrable rising threat in the US to which you are silent.

How is that relevant to this thread?
In any case, Islamism is a much bigger problem. You deny that Islamism is a problem at all, and that is part of your Islamophilia".

That madd me wonder about your health.

I've been worried about yours for years.

 

[laughing dog]

I was making fun of your concerns about the threat of Islamism. That does mot imply any “philia” about Islam.

"Because some Muslim guy 1000 years ago invented Algebra we do not need to worry about Islamism today" is not a sane response.

It isn’t. Of course, I didn’t make it either.

On the other hand, Christian Nationalism is a demonstrable rising threat in the US to which you are silent.

How is that relevant to this thread?

Islamism is a firm of theocracy. So is Christian Nationalism.

In any case, Islamism is a much bigger problem. You deny that Islamism is a problem at all, and that is part of your Islamophilia".

Islamism is not a bigger problem in the US today.
Nor do I deny Islamism is a problem at all.

That madd me wonder about your health.

I've been worried about yours for years.

Thank you for your concern, but I’m in good health,