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In theaters in August, another attempt to whitewash history, and try to make republicans look like great politicians. (just forget about Bush, W, and Trump)

With Dennis Quaid as Reagan, and Jon Voight




Wonder if this film will include how he told the Iranians to hold onto the hostages until he got elected, or sold them weapons and used the money to fund terrorists, or tripled the national debt, or backed Bin Laden in Afghanistan, or sold chemical weapons to Sadam?
 
In theaters in August, another attempt to whitewash history, and try to make republicans look like great politicians. (just forget about Bush, W, and Trump)

With Dennis Quaid as Reagan, and Jon Voight




Wonder if this film will include how he told the Iranians to hold onto the hostages until he got elected, or sold them weapons and used the money to fund terrorists, or tripled the national debt, or backed Bin Laden in Afghanistan, or sold chemical weapons to Sadam?

What needs to happen is an alternative search target and a google-bombing to weight results towards the alternate search target that then DOES discuss those things.

Fucker needs a dose of santorum
 
Had a quick look and found out Robert Davi from My Son Hunter is in it. What, James Woods wasn't available?
 
Dennis Quaid about Trump: "People might call him an asshole but he's my asshole".
 
In theaters in August, another attempt to whitewash history, and try to make republicans look like great politicians. (just forget about Bush, W, and Trump)

With Dennis Quaid as Reagan, and Jon Voight




Wonder if this film will include how he told the Iranians to hold onto the hostages until he got elected, or sold them weapons and used the money to fund terrorists, or tripled the national debt, or backed Bin Laden in Afghanistan, or sold chemical weapons to Sadam?

Aren't there more than enough Reagan movies already?

 
What I'd like to happen is a biopic pointing out how different Republicans were then from what they are now.

Seems like too much to hope for, but still. Reagan would get trashed and primaried by Teaparty Republicans today.
Tom
 
Brian Kilmeade: A question for Mr. Trump. You have been most combative toward your opponent, Gov. Reagan, this evening. Can you, though, tell us something positive about him?
Trump: No. No positives. He's a pushover. Says he'll cut taxes plus build up the military plus balance the budget. But he's got no math. I have the math for that. I know more about math than anyone on earth. He can't hold a thought, which is why many people call him Teflon Brain.
Reagan: What's that? Did you call me a name?
Trump: Teflon Brain.
Reagan: People with the right principles don't need to call names.
Trump: Teflon Brain!!
Reagan: There you go again.
Trump: Time for you to go beddy-bye, Sleepy Eyes. This is my time to talk.
Reagan: Mr. Trump, I PAID for this microphone!
Trump: Well, I have a bigger microphone, and mine works. Teflon Brain!!
Kilmeade: Time for you, Governor. Can you tell us something positive about Mr. Trump?
Reagan: Well, I hear he is a wonderful family man. He really, really, really loves his children.
Trump: Leave Ivanka outta this. Teflon Brain!
 
It's not just Ronald Reagan, it's the sort of people who got into seats of power: the Reaganites, as I call them. What they did was to start Gilded Age II, though there were some trends in that direction in the previous administration, Jimmy Carter's Presidency. I like to take a long view:  Cyclical theory (United States history) and Cyclic theories of history - Liberapedia

The US has alternated between liberal and conservative periods, periods of concern with the wrongs of the many and the rights of the few, periods of increasing democracy and containing democracy, periods of public purpose and priviate interest, periods of concern with human right and with property rights.

Conservative periods accumulate unsolved social problems, while society's elites are unwilling to do much to solve them, if they consider those problems to be real problems, which they sometimes didn't. Attempts to solve them lead to a liberal period.

Liberal periods suffer from society-scale activism burnout, because it can be hard to sustain the effort necessary to solve social problems for very long, especially if that effort has led to some big successes. That burnout then starts a conservative phase.

Gilded Age II is a conservative phase.
 
Let's look over US history.

Revolution and Constitution - liberal period, of course - also a Samuel Huntington creedal-passion period. The American creed of governance: "In terms of American beliefs, government is supposed to be egalitarian, participatory, open, noncoercive, and responsive to the demands of individuals and groups." SH conceded that that is rather impractical: "Yet no government can be all these things and still remain a government."

Hamilton Era (yes, that Alexander Hamilton) - conservative period (not sure why) - George Washington was an Eisenhower figure, a respected military leader who preferred to stay out of partisan squabbles. It was the start of the first party system: the Federalists vs. the Democratic-Republicans, with the Feds dominant at first.

Jefferson Era - liberal period (not sure why) - I don't know of any notable reforms. Though Thomas Jefferson was a DR, he ended up governing much like a Fed.

Era of Good Feelings - conservative period (a bit like the Fifties)

Jackson Era - liberal period - populism and mass-mobilization politics, also a creedal-passion period. Life was great if you were an ordinary person, but only if you were white. Also the start of the second party system: Andrew Jackson's Democrats vs. his opponents, who formed the National Republicans, and then the Whigs. AJ's politics one might almost call national socialist: economic populism like opposing big banks and ethnonationalism like stealing Natives' lands.

Era of Slaveowner Dominance - conservative period - Northerners chafed at what they called "slave power" and "slaveocracy". This was definitely a period of property rights over human rights -- the right to own human beings like farm animals vs. the rights of those owned people.

The Civil War Era - liberal period - the Civil War and its aftermath - a rather obvious race-relations upheaval - the third party system started a little before, when the Whig Party split up because of slavery, and its successor the Republican Party started as a northern antislavery party - the North got lots of its priorities without the South interfering, like land-grant colleges and western railroad building.

The Gilded Age - conservative period - major industrialization, with workers in horrible conditions and their managers liking European immigrants to make it hard for workers to organize against them - a major regression on black civil rights, unusual for conservative periods, which usually carry over previous reforms - its name comes from it only looking like a golden age, with its gold being only a thin layer.

The Progressive Era - liberal period - the fourth party system, with Democrats and Republicans continuing - lots of reforms like national parks and the Food and Drug Administration, which cracked down on the numerous fraudulent medicines of back then - also creedal passion, implementing ballot initiatives and recalls in several states and making US Senators popularly elected rather than the original: chosen by state legislatures - black civil-rights efforts did not go much farther than founding the NAACP - it ended with women getting the right to vote.

The Roaring Twenties - conservative period - Warren Harding's corrupt underlings, Calvin Coolidge's "the chief business of America is business" - the stock market seemed like a reliable source of wealth, until it collapsed and led to the Great Depression.

The New Deal Era - liberal period - Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his fellow New Dealers did a lot of experimenting, with some experiments enduring, like Social Security and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and the National Labor Relations Board and its support for labor unions. The fifth party system started, with the Democratic Party becoming the party of the New Deal and the Republican Party opposed to it - only a little bit of civil-rights activism, like a March on Washington and Harry Truman's desegregation of the armed forces.

The Fifties Era - conservative period - known for its conformity, it nevertheless enabled many ordinary Americans to live very comfortably. It was a sort of second Era of Good Feelings. But civil-rights activism restarted in the middle of it.

The Sixties Era - liberal period - also a creedal-passion period and a race-relations-upheaval period - lots of reforms: Medicare, Medicaid, civil rights, feminism, access to birth control and abortion, environmentalism, ... - and lots of social upheaval.
 
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