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Pope Francis dies at 88

Francis is expected to be buried at the ancient Basilica of St. Mary Major, which lies outside the Vatican walls. A conclave will soon begin to elect the new leader of the Catholic Church.
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So who’s next?
 
He may have been a kind Pope, but any authentic kindness is despite religion. Not because of it. Regardless he was part of a bygone era and empathy is now dying globally.

(Also to answer the question, the next Pope).
 
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I listened to a BBC report on an accountant Francis brought in to look at how money was magicked at the Vatican.

He is Catholic.

He said it was really bad, records of financial transactions were in some cases kept on scraps of paper. As he nosed around he started asking questions about high ranking Vatican clerics transferring church money to personal bank counts. Personal real estate and busness holdings.

Francis fired him for ‘exceeding his authority‘’, and smeared his professional reputation.

Nothing new, the Vatican has a modern history of financial corruption, including collusion with organized crime.

At the Vatican they are a corrupt pigs who think they are above civil law and regulations.


That humble poor man image of Francis was a facade.
 
His passing in a time of critical need is an utter disaster for the Church.

But perhaps not for the rest of us in the long term. I think these rebellious conservatives are about to realize very belatedly how advantageous it actually was, even for themselves and their crooked prerogatives, to have a well-loved bishop seated in Rome. Some of them are being sheltered by the Vatican from literal criminal charges, and almost all of them are hiding from public condemnation and financial ruin - will their outdated principles be able to speak for them when the dogs come hunting, without the intercession of a popular monarch who has the ear of prime ministers and presidents? When Pope John-Paul II passed, the situation was similar, but they don't seem to have learned their lesson yet. So here we go to round 2 I suppose. I hope we manage to nail some more of the faithless bastards before they die, and that Gerhard Müller is absolutely miserable beneath the weight of his cursed crown.
 
Its a bummer he passed. I was hoping to get a good foot wash from him before he checked out. I got athletes foot something fierce.
 
Politesse said:
His passing in a time of critical need is an utter disaster for the Church.

But perhaps not for the rest of us in the long term. I think these rebellious conservatives are about to realize very belatedly how advantageous it actually was, even for themselves and their crooked prerogatives, to have a well-loved bishop seated in Rome. Some of them are being sheltered by the Vatican from literal criminal charges, and almost all of them are hiding from public condemnation and financial ruin - will their outdated principles be able to speak for them when the dogs come hunting, without the intercession of a popular monarch who has the ear of prime ministers and presidents? When Pope John-Paul II passed, the situation was similar, but they don't seem to have learned their lesson yet. So here we go to round 2 I suppose. I hope we manage to nail some more of the faithless bastards before they die, and that Gerhard Müller is absolutely miserable beneath the weight of his cursed crown.
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I mean, my money is on what happened during WW2: the Catholic Church will get cozy with the Nazis because the Nazis offer a more enticing method to shield them from condemnation and ruin; the way of celebrity, propaganda, and media control; the way of The Prince.
 
Jarhyn said:
Politesse said:
His passing in a time of critical need is an utter disaster for the Church.

But perhaps not for the rest of us in the long term. I think these rebellious conservatives are about to realize very belatedly how advantageous it actually was, even for themselves and their crooked prerogatives, to have a well-loved bishop seated in Rome. Some of them are being sheltered by the Vatican from literal criminal charges, and almost all of them are hiding from public condemnation and financial ruin - will their outdated principles be able to speak for them when the dogs come hunting, without the intercession of a popular monarch who has the ear of prime ministers and presidents? When Pope John-Paul II passed, the situation was similar, but they don't seem to have learned their lesson yet. So here we go to round 2 I suppose. I hope we manage to nail some more of the faithless bastards before they die, and that Gerhard Müller is absolutely miserable beneath the weight of his cursed crown.
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I mean, my money is on what happened during WW2: the Catholic Church will get cozy with the Nazis because the Nazis offer a more enticing method to shield them from condemnation and ruin; the way of celebrity, propaganda, and media control; the way of The Prince.
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How'd that work out for them the first time? During and after the war, I mean?
 
Politesse said:
Jarhyn said:
Politesse said:
His passing in a time of critical need is an utter disaster for the Church.

But perhaps not for the rest of us in the long term. I think these rebellious conservatives are about to realize very belatedly how advantageous it actually was, even for themselves and their crooked prerogatives, to have a well-loved bishop seated in Rome. Some of them are being sheltered by the Vatican from literal criminal charges, and almost all of them are hiding from public condemnation and financial ruin - will their outdated principles be able to speak for them when the dogs come hunting, without the intercession of a popular monarch who has the ear of prime ministers and presidents? When Pope John-Paul II passed, the situation was similar, but they don't seem to have learned their lesson yet. So here we go to round 2 I suppose. I hope we manage to nail some more of the faithless bastards before they die, and that Gerhard Müller is absolutely miserable beneath the weight of his cursed crown.
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I mean, my money is on what happened during WW2: the Catholic Church will get cozy with the Nazis because the Nazis offer a more enticing method to shield them from condemnation and ruin; the way of celebrity, propaganda, and media control; the way of The Prince.
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How'd that work out for them the first time? During and after the war, I mean?
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Not well, but they're pretty practiced at it by this point.
 
TomC said:
Politesse said:
How'd that work out for them the first time? During and after the war, I mean?
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Which war?
Wasn't "the first time" cozying up to Emperor Constantine?
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I had the Second World War in mind, the one where they sidled up to the Nazi regime and ultimately suffered a catastrophic decline in global trust and influence as a result, not to mention a good bit of gold. Their connection to Constantine the Bull-Necked was, by most measures, a far more sucessful and profitable enterpeise.
 
NoHolyCows said:
SLD said:
www.nbcnews.com

Pope Francis dies at 88

Francis is expected to be buried at the ancient Basilica of St. Mary Major, which lies outside the Vatican walls. A conclave will soon begin to elect the new leader of the Catholic Church.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

So who’s next?
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If I had to make a prediction, Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle.

NHC
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I am going to predict him too. An Asian dude would be an interesting choice and would be a clear internationalist message. Plus he is more embracing of diversity as Francis wanted. Turkson is too old, almost 80, and the others too conservative.

Except maybe Busungu. He’s been active in issues of world peace and comes from a war torn country where he is still under investigation for seditious remarks. With the war raging in Ukraine and India Pakistan heating up, he might be the choice.
 
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As the globe is currently suffering from a deluded urge to transition away from the unprecedented peace and prosperity of the last 60 or so years, it becomes a question of where does the Vatican want to stand. With religion evaporating, their significance goes with it. They can make a plea for holding onto peace or they could do the WWII thing and turn a blind eye.
 
Several hours of lengthy reporting and commentary in the news of the significance of black smoke.

The inn depth reporting said tomorrow there will be more voting.

Video of mutes of black smoke coming from the roof was very informative.
 
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Habemus Papem.

Don’t know who he is yet
Wait. He’s ‘merican! Uh rah. Trump will be happy. Unless he’s woke
 
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