Nonbelievers Are Now A Majority In Norway

[Cheerful Charlie]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rity-do-not-for-first-time-ever-a6943706.html

Monday 21 March 2016

According to The Local, 39 per cent said "no" when asked whether they believed, compared to 37 per cent who said "yes", while the remaining 23 per cent said they did not know.

When the question was first asked in 1985, a full 50 per cent said they believed in God while only one-fifth said they did not.
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In the country's capital, Oslo, only 29 per cent said they were believers, while the sparsely-populated county of Vest-Agder in the north-west had the most believers at 44 per cent.

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[Tom Sawyer]

Stupid Norwegians. If gods aren't real, explain who killed all the frost giants. You can't, can you?

 

[phands]

A common theme in Europe. Even my native Scotland became majority "none" just a few months ago. The US seems to be still in the dark ages.

 

[Lion IRC]

Go Norway!!!
World leaders.
In other news...
Norway to give hundreds of drug addicts free heroin to 'improve quality of life'
Norway has the highest rate of deaths from drug abuse in Europe.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...oin-drug-addicts-treatment-care-a8486571.html

 

[Lion IRC]

Folks in secular atheist Scandinavia don't like it when you mention their glaring social pathologies - like suicide (aka euthanasia)

 

[bilby]

Go Norway!!!
World leaders.
In other news...
Norway to give hundreds of drug addicts free heroin to 'improve quality of life'
Norway has the highest rate of deaths from drug abuse in Europe.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...oin-drug-addicts-treatment-care-a8486571.html

Well that's good - The data from a similar program in the Netherlands suggests that giving addicts free heroin is a very effective way to cut overdose deaths. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19922517/?i=3&from=/10674115/related

Your incredulous and unfounded horror at the fact that the Norwegians have decided on a reasoned and demonstrably effective means to address a problem, rather than simply repeating the demonstrably ineffective 'war on drugs', says more about you than it does about Norway. And none of it good.

That you don't seem capable of grasping that your evidence points in the exact opposite direction from that which you want to demonstrate is yet another indication that your ability to apply reason and logic is critically impaired.

You really, really need to learn some epistemology. It's become seriously embarrassing to watch you constantly make a total fool of yourself like this.

 

[bilby]

Folks in secular atheist Scandinavia don't like it when you mention their glaring social pathologies - like suicide (aka euthanasia)

Scandinavia has had high suicide rates since long before they became secular nations.

Yet again, you pour custard down your trousers while apparently expecting your acts to garner deep respect. What's next, a custard pie to the face? Wearing ridiculously long shoes and a bright red nose? A flower in your buttonhole that squirts water?

Reason and logic are not particularly hard; But like almost any human activity, if you never bother to learn how to do them, you will just come across as a total clown when you attempt them in public.

First learn the basics; Then practice as much as possible; And only then attempt a performance in front of a critical audience.

If you skip the first two steps, you are not going to win any accolades. You will just make a total fool of yourself.

 

[phands]

That you don't seem capable of grasping that your evidence points in the exact opposite direction from that which you want to demonstrate is yet another indication that your ability to apply reason and logic is critically impaired.

You really, really need to learn some epistemology. It's become seriously embarrassing to watch you constantly make a total fool of yourself like this.

Not to mention the fact that he attempted to say that the high drug use rates are because of atheism....a connection that hasn't been shown. But then....in late-breaking news, a xtian distorts and diverts to try to hide an uncomfortable truth.

 

[bilby]

That you don't seem capable of grasping that your evidence points in the exact opposite direction from that which you want to demonstrate is yet another indication that your ability to apply reason and logic is critically impaired.

You really, really need to learn some epistemology. It's become seriously embarrassing to watch you constantly make a total fool of yourself like this.

Not to mention the fact that he attempted to say that the high drug use rates are because of atheism....a connection that hasn't been shown. But then....in late-breaking news, a xtian distorts and diverts to try to hide an uncomfortable truth.

What? Are you trying to suggest that correlation doesn't imply causation even if you really want it to??



If we are looking for causes of high rates of suicide and depression in Scandinavia, it would seem reasonable to start with the fact that for half the year, they barely see any sunlight at all. Of course, that's something that would need to be tested - just like the hypothesis that their atheism is to blame. But it at least (unlike the atheism hypothesis) doesn't fail abysmally when we look at history - day length in Scandinavian winters is much the same now as it was a century ago, as is depression and suicide rate - but back then, they were all Christians.

Doubtless our resident amateur logician will be along in a minute to insinuate that they were not true Christians.

 

[Politesse]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rity-do-not-for-first-time-ever-a6943706.html

Monday 21 March 2016

According to The Local, 39 per cent said "no" when asked whether they believed, compared to 37 per cent who said "yes", while the remaining 23 per cent said they did not know.

When the question was first asked in 1985, a full 50 per cent said they believed in God while only one-fifth said they did not.
...
In the country's capital, Oslo, only 29 per cent said they were believers, while the sparsely-populated county of Vest-Agder in the north-west had the most believers at 44 per cent.

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Interesting. I presume all forms of prejudice and ignorance will soon end in Norway?

I actually grew up in a church that had been founded by Norwegian immigrants, as it happens.