Nuclear terrorism

[arkirk]

Nuclear terrorism.....making 200 nuclear bombs and then claiming your nation is ambiguous regarding nukes...ala Netanyahu. Hamas people are too naïve to accomplish anything with their rockets. This is just a red herring. Israel is a rogue nation with nuclear weapons.

Get a dictionary, learn what "terrorism" means.

Loren: Quit trying to talk to me as if I were a child. I am every bit as hip to the "terrorism" bullshit as you. Israel is attacking and killing civilians, women and children for a political purpose. That's close enough for me...then adding nuclear saber rattling.

You can't possibly be as uninformed as you pretend to be,

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Get a dictionary, learn what "terrorism" means.

Loren: Quit trying to talk to me as if I were a child. I am every bit as hip to the "terrorism" bullshit as you. Israel is attacking and killing civilians, women and children for a political purpose. That's close enough for me...then adding nuclear saber rattling.

You can't possibly be as uninformed as you pretend to be,

It might be close enough for you but that doesn't make it right.

 

[laughing dog]

Nuclear terrorism.....making 200 nuclear bombs and then claiming your nation is ambiguous regarding nukes...ala Netanyahu. Hamas people are too naïve to accomplish anything with their rockets. This is just a red herring. Israel is a rogue nation with nuclear weapons.

Get a dictionary, learn what "terrorism" means.

A number of posters in this thread have shown you are the one who needs the education on terrorism.

 

[bilby]

Regardless of what the dictionaries might say, it is pretty clear that the word 'Terrorism' now means 'An action, usually but not always involving violence or the threat of violence, taken by a person or group with whose ideals, goals and/or objectives the speaker does not agree'.

 

[untermensche]

If one wants to know what terrorism is all they have to do is look at Gaza.

The killing of civilians so Israel can maintain it's oppression, so it can continue to steal land as it has for the past 50 years.

That is terrorism on a grand scale.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Regardless of what the dictionaries might say, it is pretty clear that the word 'Terrorism' now means 'An action, usually but not always involving violence or the threat of violence, taken by a person or group with whose ideals, goals and/or objectives the speaker does not agree'.

Ha. I see what you did, there. Twisting a pretend definition around to attack people who use the word 'terrorism' to make a point rather than to actually identify terrorism.

But then, here you are using the word 'terrorism' to make YOUR point.
You're just as bad, you terrorist!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Get a dictionary, learn what "terrorism" means.

A number of posters in this thread have shown you are the one who needs the education on terrorism.

A bunch of you are misusing the word. That doesn't make it so.

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Regardless of what the dictionaries might say, it is pretty clear that the word 'Terrorism' now means 'An action, usually but not always involving violence or the threat of violence, taken by a person or group with whose ideals, goals and/or objectives the speaker does not agree'.

Ha. I see what you did, there. Twisting a pretend definition around to attack people who use the word 'terrorism' to make a point rather than to actually identify terrorism.

But then, here you are using the word 'terrorism' to make YOUR point.
You're just as bad, you terrorist!

He's describing how you guys are using it.

 

[bilby]

My irony meter just exploded.

I suspect terrorism.

 

[nightwyrm]

Clearly, Israel should respond by eradicating the Palestinian population. That's what you want to hear, right?

Hamas is supported by the Palestinians and recruits continuously from those living in Gaza who feels oppressed and violated by the Israeli state. To eliminate Hamas, you must eliminate their source of support and recruitment. No more Palestinians, no more Hamas.

Negotiating with them is futile anyways since all they want is to eliminate you. So you eliminate them first. Kill all those who resists you. Kill those who step up to avenge those you killed. Kill the children of those you killed since they'll hate you now. After you've slaughtered so many that you have broken the will of those wretched people and they meekly accept their subjugation, then you shall finally know peace.

 

[arkirk]

Regardless of what the dictionaries might say, it is pretty clear that the word 'Terrorism' now means 'An action, usually but not always involving violence or the threat of violence, taken by a person or group with whose ideals, goals and/or objectives the speaker does not agree'.

So then Dick Cheney was a terrorist? I think the word terrorist is only used by people fishing for a word to describe some unnamable evil opposition. The less they understand it, the more "terrorist" it seems.

It is a word like the "psychoneurotic" used by communists to describe the Americans during the Korean war. It imputes a kind of quality of "evil." It is a meaningless word. Speak English please. Be more descriptive of what your differences are with these people. Both sides of many conflicts regard those on the other side as terrorists.

 

[laughing dog]

A number of posters in this thread have shown you are the one who needs the education on terrorism.

A bunch of you are misusing the word. That doesn't make it so.

A bunch of us have shown the definitions. On the otherhand, as usual, you have not. Not surprisingly, you are the one who is misusing the term - as a number of posters have demonstrated.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

A bunch of you are misusing the word. That doesn't make it so.

A bunch of us have shown the definitions. On the otherhand, as usual, you have not. Not surprisingly, you are the one who is misusing the term - as a number of posters have demonstrated.

Some of you have posted very inadequate definitions and don't understand them anyway.

The fundamental aspect of terrorism is that the primary weapon is terror, not something of military relevance.

 

[arkirk]

A bunch of us have shown the definitions. On the otherhand, as usual, you have not. Not surprisingly, you are the one who is misusing the term - as a number of posters have demonstrated.

Some of you have posted very inadequate definitions and don't understand them anyway.

The fundamental aspect of terrorism is that the primary weapon is terror, not something of military relevance.

Whenever there is the prospect of widespread violence and suffering there is terror. That sounds like military threats count too if it is aimed a civilian population. 270 dead bodies so far in Gaza. Threats to bomb Iran. I think that Israel uses terror quite effectively to make life miserable for millions...miserable and scared too. Quit quibbling about your silly insistence on some exactitudinarian definition of a pet word of yours.

 

[laughing dog]

A bunch of us have shown the definitions. On the otherhand, as usual, you have not. Not surprisingly, you are the one who is misusing the term - as a number of posters have demonstrated.

Some of you have posted very inadequate definitions and don't understand them anyway.

I posted the dictionary definition of terrorism (i.e. the common understanding), and another used the definition from your own source, so your response indicates you have no understanding.

The fundamental aspect of terrorism is that the primary weapon is terror, not something of military relevance.

It is illogical to think the two concepts are mutually exclusive, even assuming your observation is true.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Some of you have posted very inadequate definitions and don't understand them anyway.

The fundamental aspect of terrorism is that the primary weapon is terror, not something of military relevance.

Whenever there is the prospect of widespread violence and suffering there is terror. That sounds like military threats count too if it is aimed a civilian population. 270 dead bodies so far in Gaza. Threats to bomb Iran. I think that Israel uses terror quite effectively to make life miserable for millions...miserable and scared too. Quit quibbling about your silly insistence on some exactitudinarian definition of a pet word of yours.

No. Widespread violence and suffering do not make terrorism. The key aspect of terrorism is that the attacks are of minimal military usefulness, the primary objective is scaring people.

 

[Jayjay]

Terrorism as a term is pointless during war. War always includes an element of terror. Your argument that somehow, mildly scaring people is always worse than wholesale killng of civilians as long as the latter is conducted by a state actor is patently false.

 

[arkirk]

Terrorism as a term is pointless during war. War always includes an element of terror. Your argument that somehow, mildly scaring people is always worse than wholesale killng of civilians as long as the latter is conducted by a state actor is patently false.

That becomes an important consideration when one side is a state and fights the world to keep the other side from having statehood, thus, according to Loren, dooming them to perpetual status as "terrorists."

Are we to assume because Israel got its paperwork all done, it can threaten the entire middle east including its civilian inhabitants with Nuclear Weapons, that while it may be terrifying, it is "not terrorism?" It is just a godly NATION defending itself from the heathen hoard on its borders. The conceptualization of Palestinians is so colored by racism it isn't funny. These are human beings. In the past few days now about 400 of them have been snuffed out by IDF action...the majority CIVILIANS. It angers me that my country has paid part of the bill for this inhuman action.

 

[untermensche]

Terrorism as a term is pointless during war. War always includes an element of terror. Your argument that somehow, mildly scaring people is always worse than wholesale killng of civilians as long as the latter is conducted by a state actor is patently false.

This isn't war. It's a very powerful nation oppressing a practically defenseless civilian population, and doing it for decades. And it is the natural human reaction to that oppression. To resist it with any means available.

That is not war.

 

[bilby]

Whenever there is the prospect of widespread violence and suffering there is terror. That sounds like military threats count too if it is aimed a civilian population. 270 dead bodies so far in Gaza. Threats to bomb Iran. I think that Israel uses terror quite effectively to make life miserable for millions...miserable and scared too. Quit quibbling about your silly insistence on some exactitudinarian definition of a pet word of yours.

No. Widespread violence and suffering do not make terrorism. The key aspect of terrorism is that the attacks are of minimal military usefulness, the primary objective is scaring people.

So attacking your enemy's power generating infrastructure would not be terrorism then? Firing rockets at a nuclear plant has almost zero chance of causing a terrifying breach of containment; but it has a very good chance of causing a strategically valuable interruption of power supply to your enemy. Sounds to me like you are absolutely correct Loren - this was, by your definition, clearly NOT terrorism.

You should tell the guy who started this thread that; I am sure he would listen to you, even though he apparently won't listen to reason from anyone else.

 

[arkirk]

Terrorism as a term is pointless during war. War always includes an element of terror. Your argument that somehow, mildly scaring people is always worse than wholesale killng of civilians as long as the latter is conducted by a state actor is patently false.

Loren and the IDF is trying to define away any responsibility for the slaughter the IDF has engaged in. That, and keeping the conflict going seem to be the only thing that is important to him. I have a kind of sick feeling this is going to end badly...for BOTH SIDES.