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Obedience to God

This thread is getting boring - me saying it's about trust not blood/sacrifice and atheists 'splaining what it 'really' means. Nobody even makes the effort to cite a biblical example where people actually do kill the person God commands them to.
Yawn. /thread

I feel a little sorry for you, you are always twisting and turning to justify yourself, Never knowing real peace and what freedom of thought feels like. There is religious experience, there is also the experience of standing on your own two feet without crutches.

Watch that first step, its a doozy.

Which one of us has the narrower - shallower - world view?
You - no God/gods, no transcendent ethical paradigm, no afterlife, no deeper truths.?

Me...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_(film)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_Doors
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/May_the_Force_be_with_you
 
Interestingly I see a lot more people (conspiracy theists if you will) nowadays giving talks about a particular group of Jesuits (seeds of satan so-called) who have been said to be corrupting ,infiltrating various denominations, replacing or steering focus and distorting Christianity for centuries. No wonder we're a mixed confused bunch, considering if this being the case. :eek:

They don't need conspiracy. There is no satan, just as there is no jebus. The whole edifice of christianity is corrupt from the core.
 
Which one of us has the narrower - shallower - world view?
Whoever has the more beliefs.

Remove what you can... "no" this and "no" that ... and you'll be less constrained by a "world view".
 
Lion IRC said:
Which one of us has the narrower - shallower - world view?

Very clearly you. It begins and ends with “Fibbleblop did it and I trust Fibbleblop, because of this anonymous book about magic and ghosts centered around Fibbleblop.”
 
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Compare and contrast.

God tells one man to kill his offspring, which he tries to do, and he's arrested for attempted murder.

God tells another man to kill his offspring, which he tries to do, and the man is praised for his obedience.

I don't think theists make a distinction between morality and obedience.

The first man is wrong not because it is wrong to kill your own child, but because he was wrong about what god said to him.
 
This thread is getting boring - me saying it's about trust not blood/sacrifice and atheists 'splaining what it 'really' means. Nobody even makes the effort to cite a biblical example where people actually do kill the person God commands them to.
Yawn. /thread

I feel a little sorry for you, you are always twisting and turning to justify yourself, Never knowing real peace and what freedom of thought feels like. There is religious experience, there is also the experience of standing on your own two feet without crutches.

Watch that first step, its a doozy.

Which one of us has the narrower - shallower - world view?
You - no God/gods, no transcendent ethical paradigm, no afterlife, no deeper truths.?

Me...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_(film)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_Doors
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/May_the_Force_be_with_you

Shallow is wishing something were true because you lack imagination and courage to accept the real world for what it is, not what you'd like it to be.
 
God unleashed Satan on Job's sons and daughters.

Well if you're gonna blame God for every omission to act, someone got eaten by a shark the other day. :rolleyes:

"Blame"?

If God exists and is omnipotent and omniscient, then He is responsible for everything. The word blame implies that he is not responsible, but if he is not responsible, then he is not omnipotent.

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This thread is getting boring - me saying it's about trust not blood/sacrifice and atheists 'splaining what it 'really' means. Nobody even makes the effort to cite a biblical example where people actually do kill the person God commands them to.
Yawn. /thread

I feel a little sorry for you, you are always twisting and turning to justify yourself, Never knowing real peace and what freedom of thought feels like. There is religious experience, there is also the experience of standing on your own two feet without crutches.

Watch that first step, its a doozy.

Which one of us has the narrower - shallower - world view?
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You.

 
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