OMFG! Assault Rifles For Really Young Kids

[bilby]

He is using the correct definition. The other "definition" was created in order to demonize the civilian guns as if they were the military guns that the name correctly applies to. This is a propaganda effort that has been successful enough you don't realize what it is.

Nonsense. There's no such thing as a "correct definition".

The reasons why any definition was adopted have absolutely no bearing on whether that definition is "correct"; A definition of any word or phrase is "correct" if it represents the understanding of the audience.

Given the success of your opponents' propaganda, you should probably stop using the phrase at all, or resign yourself to constantly being misunderstood.

Railing against the fates because the hoi polloi have adopted a definition you dislike is an exercise in futility.

What do you think of Kent Hovind's definition of "theory" or his definition of "evolution" with it's "six types of evolution"?

They're idiosyncratic, and valuable only within his small circle of idiots; Nobody else uses them nor are they likely to adopt them.

Hovind's ideas are nonsense, and his use of language is the least of the problems with them.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Interesting. I think I agree with Loren that there is such a thing as a "correct definition".



See, Zipr, he answered without either of us creating a derail.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

He is using the correct definition. The other "definition" was created in order to demonize the civilian guns as if they were the military guns that the name correctly applies to. This is a propaganda effort that has been successful enough you don't realize what it is.

Nonsense. There's no such thing as a "correct definition".

The reasons why any definition was adopted have absolutely no bearing on whether that definition is "correct"; A definition of any word or phrase is "correct" if it represents the understanding of the audience.

Given the success of your opponents' propaganda, you should probably stop using the phrase at all, or resign yourself to constantly being misunderstood.

Railing against the fates because the hoi polloi have adopted a definition you dislike is an exercise in futility.

I consider a definition incorrect when it's being deliberately applied to something else to change the perception of that something else.

I see.

So you consider pretty much all definitions, of anything, in any context, to be incorrect.

That must be horribly confusing.

The deliberate application of novel definitions, in order to change people's perceptions, is basically the entire history of language.

Huh?

The labeling of the AR-15 and the like as "assault weapons" is a propaganda ploy meant to lower popular opinion of them, not a remotely organic evolution of the term. That's what I'm objecting to, calling them "assault weapons" is basically accepting the big lie.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Being honest, they've been making AR's in .22 cal forever. And as far as I can remember, they've been making compact versions for jr. shooters and smaller women shooters as well. The fact that a company is targeting this market isn't surprising. But I still feel like <16 shooting age is a little funky. And even 16-18 without supervision is scary. I grew up shooting guns and have a few myself but kids+guns=problems in my book.

I don't mind shooting at below 18, but I do object to unsupervised shooting below 18.