Orlando Shooter was in the club a dozen times

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

FORT PIERCE – At least four regular customers at the gay Orlando nightclub where a gunman killed 49 people Sunday morning said today that they believe they had seen the killer, Omar Mateen, there before.

"Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent," said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.

He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Orlando Sentinel.

"We didn't really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times," Smith said. "He told us he had a wife and child."

...

Mateen's ex-wife, Sitora Yusufiy, held a news conference and according to CNN described him as seriously mentally ill.

"In the beginning he was a normal being that cared about family, loved to joke, loved to have fun, but then a few months after we were married I saw his instability. I saw that he was bipolar and he would get mad out of nowhere. That's when I started worrying about my safety," she said.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...tclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

For someone who hated watching gay men touch each other, he sure went to the club an awful lot. I wonder if there is more here to this.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

If a movie was made about, it would be a farce full of stereotypes that would offend pretty much everyone unless it had actually happened.

It's so tragic.

 

[untermensche]

If this is true he may have been fighting off a homosexual inclination.

But you can't learn general rules from the sickest individuals.

 

[fast]

If this is true he may have been fighting off a homosexual inclination.

Might have been, not may have been.

 

[RavenSky]

If this is true he may have been fighting off a homosexual inclination.

Or purposely feeding his rage.

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Chris Hayes called him a "jihadist fanboy". That sounds about right.

 

[Thomas II]

FORT PIERCE – At least four regular customers at the gay Orlando nightclub where a gunman killed 49 people Sunday morning said today that they believe they had seen the killer, Omar Mateen, there before.

"Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent," said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.

He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Orlando Sentinel.

"We didn't really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times," Smith said. "He told us he had a wife and child."

...

Mateen's ex-wife, Sitora Yusufiy, held a news conference and according to CNN described him as seriously mentally ill.

"In the beginning he was a normal being that cared about family, loved to joke, loved to have fun, but then a few months after we were married I saw his instability. I saw that he was bipolar and he would get mad out of nowhere. That's when I started worrying about my safety," she said.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...tclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

For someone who hated watching gay men touch each other, he sure went to the club an awful lot. I wonder if there is more here to this.

The shame...His father's shame...Religious shame...His family's shame...He was killing his shame...

 

[repoman]

Just started watching a TYT video about the LA Pride parade and the man (who had some guns and tannerite) who said he was going to the pride parade to attend rather than attack. Had to stop it because don't want to lose brain cells. Not all their videos are ill researched like this.

Ana Kasparian said she was not "buying it." Well, the guy was gay and had a boyfriend as was shown in the news article from last year. So that means that either he was out enough to be dating a man and still wanting to attack gays or that he had weapons for another purpose.

My guess is strongly towards the latter. Could be in the drug trade, tannerite could be used for a robbery or whatever.

For fuck's sake let the police and FBI etc... do their job. If this guy had no intention of attacking the parade don't let him get rolled up in that because of a hysteria. He is already in serious trouble for just having the weapons and tannerite.

And stop trying to push a narrative all the time.

Oh, this is some info about tannerite:

 

[barbos]

There have been a lot of homophobs who turned out to be gays.
Fact is, anyone saying homosexuality is a choice is most certainly a gay. Because no straight man would think that.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Just makes it all the more tragic what his father said "God will punish homosexuality. This is not an issue for humans to punish"

Imagine being gay with a troglodyte father like that. No wonder the guy was psychologically unstable. Every kid deserves being loved. sad.

 

[untermensche]

If this is true he may have been fighting off a homosexual inclination.

Might have been, not may have been.

Is this a distinction?

Or a reference to some artificial part of human grammar?

Are you expressing some soaring idea? Or the pettiest idea possible?

 

[fast]

Might have been, not may have been.

Is this a distinction?

Or a reference to some artificial part of human grammar?

Are you expressing some soaring idea? Or the pettiest idea possible?

If it's any consolation, recent news has been giving me reason to take it back, so I retract.

ETA: of course it's a distinction.

 

[untermensche]

Is this a distinction?

Or a reference to some artificial part of human grammar?

Are you expressing some soaring idea? Or the pettiest idea possible?

If it's any consolation, recent news has been giving me reason to take it back, so I retract.

It is not consolation.

I don't care what inclinations people have or what consenting adults do.

My original point was about this possibly being some personal problem.

Of course religious and cultural prohibitions would play a role as well if that is true.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

More in the article:

Another Pulse regular, Kevin West, told the Los Angeles Times that Mateen messaged him on and off for a year using a gay chat app.

...

Cord Cedeno and Chris Callen are other Pulse customers who told the Sentinel they had seen Mateen in the nightclub.

Callen said he had witnessed violent outbursts by Mateen.

"It was definitely him. He'd come in for years, and people knew him," Cedeno said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...tclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Is this a distinction?

Or a reference to some artificial part of human grammar?

Are you expressing some soaring idea? Or the pettiest idea possible?

If it's any consolation, recent news has been giving me reason to take it back, so I retract.

ETA: of course it's a distinction.

Are you talking about this news?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-pulse-club-regular-patrons-article-1.2672445

 

[fast]

If it's any consolation, recent news has been giving me reason to take it back, so I retract.

ETA: of course it's a distinction.

Are you talking about this news?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-pulse-club-regular-patrons-article-1.2672445

In part.

People have the unfortunate habit of mistaking the mere bare possibility that something could be the case (might) with an actual reason-based belief (may). He said, "may" yet neglected to offer any reason for thinking what he does.

Your house might be on fire, but without anything more that the fact it's possible, it's irresponsible to call you up and express the falsehood that it may be on fire, as saying that something may be the case expresses more (much more) than it's possible.

 

[untermensche]

Are you talking about this news?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-pulse-club-regular-patrons-article-1.2672445

In part.

People have the unfortunate habit of mistaking the mere bare possibility that something could be the case (might) with an actual reason-based belief (may). He said, "may" yet neglected to offer any reason for thinking what he does.

Your house might be on fire, but without anything more that the fact it's possible, it's irresponsible to call you up and express the falsehood that it may be on fire, as saying that something may be the case expresses more (much more) than it's possible.

The usages of may and might are similar. Although one or the other is more likely to be used in some contexts, neither choice will be wrong. Below is an introduction to the most important uses of may and might.


1. May and might are both commonly used to talk about possibility:
•You may have a little difficulty driving at night.
•I might have an allergy to wheat.
•We may go to London for vacation, if we can still afford it.

Note that many grammar books say it is better to use might when something is less likely, and may when something is more likely, but this is a flexible rule.

http://www.learnersdictionary.com/qa/what-is-the-difference-between-may-and-might

Yes you know what a few books on grammar claim.

This is not something you should try to shove down anybodies throat as an ultimate truth.

It is arbitrary and capricious.

Humans have an innate grammar. This stuff is just some dictators trying to force nonsense into the language.

To say "He may have gone to school today" or "He might have gone to school today" is perfectly acceptable to the listener and no distinction is made. So neither case violates innate grammar.

 

[bleubird]

Are you talking about this news?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-pulse-club-regular-patrons-article-1.2672445

In part.

People have the unfortunate habit of mistaking the mere bare possibility that something could be the case (might) with an actual reason-based belief (may). He said, "may" yet neglected to offer any reason for thinking what he does.

Your house might be on fire, but without anything more that the fact it's possible, it's irresponsible to call you up and express the falsehood that it may be on fire, as saying that something may be the case expresses more (much more) than it's possible.

Do you correct peoples grammar and syntax in casual conversations?Just wondering.

 

[fast]

In part.

People have the unfortunate habit of mistaking the mere bare possibility that something could be the case (might) with an actual reason-based belief (may). He said, "may" yet neglected to offer any reason for thinking what he does.

Your house might be on fire, but without anything more that the fact it's possible, it's irresponsible to call you up and express the falsehood that it may be on fire, as saying that something may be the case expresses more (much more) than it's possible.

Do you correct peoples grammar and syntax in casual conversations?Just wondering.

No. Just him for the most part.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Do you correct peoples grammar and syntax in casual conversations?Just wondering.

No. Just him for the most part.

That wasn't grammar or syntax, though. Instead, it was vocabulary.

 

[bleubird]

No. Just him for the most part.

That wasn't grammar or syntax, though. Instead, it was vocabulary.

"you know sometimes words have two meanings"