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[TV and credit cards]

I do? Quote me.

Yes, you as a whole russophobe gang

I.e., you think of your outgroup as interchangeable parts. Good show. As for the "russophobe" bit, did it escape your attention that we're the ones saying Russia may not really be as scary as Russians portray it, and you're the one telling us that yes, we really should be scared of you?

Phobia!=scared.
Yes, western scam have schizophrenic views where on one side they say Russia has a tiny, irrelevant incapable army, economy, you name it. On the other hand they say, if we let Ukraine fall Putin's war machine will take over whole Europe.
Which one is that? It can't be both.

Bold: Yeah, not so much these days. More before the Russian military's corruption and ineptitude was exposed. Now we see what a mess it is. Your military gains scant meters of Ukrainian land at the cost of thousands of Russian lives. This is the reality of Russia's military today. Your navy in the Black Sea was by and large wiped out by a country that has no navy and with one hand tied behind its back by a timid POTUS. What's left of it sailed off to safe harbor.

What the condition of your economy is is a bit more difficult to suss out. How is life as a Russian consumer? Are goods and services bountiful?

A shame, actually. It would have been nice to have the opinion, reasoned opinion of a person living in Russia. Instead we get this clumsy attempt at gaslighting.
Fact is three years ago your authoritarian leader made a terrible gambit. It is just as factual today as it was then.

 

[barbos]

Bold: Yeah, not so much these days. More before the Russian military's corruption and ineptitude was exposed

As I said schizophrenic.

 

[barbos]

How is life as a Russian consumer? Are goods and services bountiful?

Same as before or better.

A shame, actually. It would have been nice to have the opinion, reasoned opinion of a person living in Russia. Instead we get this clumsy attempt at gaslighting.

Sorry I can't confirm the garbage that was put in your head by neocon propaganda.

 

[barbos]

Fact is three years ago your authoritarian leader made a terrible gambit. It is just as factual today as it was then.

Gambit was made by your senile leader and his gang of murderous motherfuckers.

 

[Bomb#20]

Yes, you as a whole russophobe gang

I.e., you think of your outgroup as interchangeable parts. Good show. As for the "russophobe" bit, did it escape your attention that we're the ones saying Russia may not really be as scary as Russians portray it, and you're the one telling us that yes, we really should be scared of you?

Phobia!=scared.

Yes, it literally does equal scared: "an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation". But that's okay; what does "russophobe" mean to you? A person who doesn't accept Putin's word as proof?

Yes, western scam have schizophrenic views where on one side they say Russia has a tiny, irrelevant incapable army, economy, you name it. On the other hand they say, if we let Ukraine fall Putin's war machine will take over whole Europe.
Which one is that? It can't be both.

Where "schizophrenic" means some of us "western scam" say Russia has a tiny, irrelevant incapable army, economy, you name it, while other of us "western scam" say if we let Ukraine fall Putin's war machine will take over whole Europe, and if your outgroup were sane we'd all think the same way because we're interchangeable parts?

 

[barbos]

You are not making any sense. Your views are self contradictory.
You need a better theory.
I, on the other hand, have coherent theory which is supported by data and facts, which you were unable to dismiss.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's not about being stupid;

No, it's about being stupid. You called russians stupid.
All modern nukes require constant and serous maintenance and material replacement, without that they become duds in just a few years.
But according to you, russians forgot all about that after 1991. At the same time you go and bitch about Ukrainian nukes which they according to you gave up in that memorandum. OK,

And what's next? russian nuclear subs don't exist. it's all fiction?

It's not a matter of forget, it's a matter of corruption.

You don't shit about corruption in Russia.
The last dumb-ass who based his plans of invasion into Russia on Russian corruption and incompetence ended up burning in a the ditch. Just saying. And you are basing the war you started on the same.

I didn't say whether I cared about the corruption or not. I was explaining why some of us believe few if any of the Russian bombs will work. None of us are saying Russia couldn't build atomic bombs. We are saying that post-collapse Russia is too corrupt to maintain them--the money would certainly be siphoned off.

 

[barbos]

I didn't say whether I cared about the corruption or not. I was explaining why some of us believe few if any of the Russian bombs will work.

Bullshit, utter bullshit.
And you really base your plans on the hope that Russia does not have functioning nukes?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And you are basing the war you started on the same.

Which war is that, pray tell?

Russo-american proxy (through Ukraine) war.
First you tried to maidan elected government in Russia - did not work. Then you honestly believed that sanctions would destroy stupid Russia. Did not happen. Then you thought you can win if you give ukro-nazis enough weapons, money, training, intelligence, direct military planning and control. That did not work either. Now, you are caught with pants down and thinking how to get out of the situation without actually admitting the obvious.

They were so clever that they "forced" Russia to attack Ukraine before providing Ukraine with the weapons. money, etcetera.
That is some strange cleverness.

First of all, US/NATO did provide military support to Kiev Regime prior to 2022. Second of all, I repeat again, the plan was to defeat Russia solely with blitz.... sanctions.

We supported them after you took your first bite in 2014.

I do agree sanctions don't do much.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Bold: Yeah, not so much these days. More before the Russian military's corruption and ineptitude was exposed. Now we see what a mess it is. Your military gains scant meters of Ukrainian land at the cost of thousands of Russian lives. This is the reality of Russia's military today. Your navy in the Black Sea was by and large wiped out by a country that has no navy and with one hand tied behind its back by a timid POTUS. What's left of it sailed off to safe harbor.

And it's not really safe as it has no port facilities.

A shame, actually. It would have been nice to have the opinion, reasoned opinion of a person living in Russia. Instead we get this clumsy attempt at gaslighting.
Fact is three years ago your authoritarian leader made a terrible gambit. It is just as factual today as it was then.

Think he would be safe in telling the truth??

 

[TV and credit cards]

A shame, actually. It would have been nice to have the opinion, reasoned opinion of a person living in Russia. Instead we get this clumsy attempt at gaslighting.
Fact is three years ago your authoritarian leader made a terrible gambit. It is just as factual today as it was then.

Think he would be safe in telling the truth??

My understanding is Russia does not have China level control over their internet. I know they've tried to tighten it up as the war progressed but I suspect like all things Russia, their efforts likely bore little fruit. Russian internet is probably like most things Russia, a shit show.
He'd be safe avoiding comments on Ukraine and western media altogether if he wanted. He chose this path.
Jayjay often voiced opinions I disagreed with but I felt they were honest opinions and appreciated trying to understand where they were coming from. In these regards, barbos' are of limited value.

 

[Bomb#20]

You are not making any sense. Your views are self contradictory.

By all means, feel free to exhibit the self contradiction.

You need a better theory.
I, on the other hand, have coherent theory which is supported by data and facts, which you were unable to dismiss.

Um, that would be your "At the same time you go and bitch about Ukrainian nukes" coherent theory, would it? Which data and facts support it?

 

[Elixir]

barbos' are of limited value.

Disingenuousness and tiresome repetition of falsehoods can do that to a person.

 

[barbos]

By all means, feel free to exhibit the self contradiction.

I already did.

Um, that would be your "At the same time you go and bitch about Ukrainian nukes" coherent theory, would it?

My theory was well described and not very original since even MSM (NYT) recently pretty much voiced it, not to mention countless dissident media in the West.

 

[barbos]

We supported them after you took your first bite in 2014.

Nuland in her testimony to Congress proudly admitted that US supported them before 2014

 

[barbos]

Jayjay often voiced opinions I disagreed with but I felt they were honest opinions and appreciated trying to understand where they were coming from. In these regards, barbos' are of limited value.

And apparently he stopped becasue he disagreed with the western garbage and decided it would be safer for him to be quiet.

 

[barbos]

My understanding is Russia does not have China level control over their internet.

With recent attempts to ban youtube in Russia I came to realize that Chinese Great Wall is greatly exaggerated.

Russian internet is probably like most things Russia, a shit show.

What do you mean by that?
300Mbit for $5/month is pretty good. Twitter and Facebook are banned, don't really care about that garbage.
Youtube is "slowed down", but there are ways to overcome that. Youtube ban is retarded. Russian alternative to YT does not work for me because it mostly hosts russian entertainment stuff.
Having said that, your senile leader banned Tik-Tok and EU is not far behind Russia in banning sites, even american ones.
Not to mention russian ones.

 

[Bomb#20]

You are not making any sense. Your views are self contradictory.

By all means, feel free to exhibit the self contradiction.

I already did.

No, you exhibited somebody else and I contradicting each other. That's not a self contradiction because somebody else and I aren't a self.

 

[barbos]

You are not making any sense. Your views are self contradictory.

By all means, feel free to exhibit the self contradiction.

I already did.

No, you exhibited somebody else and I contradicting each other. That's not a self contradiction because somebody else and I aren't a self.

I most certainly did show the contradictions in MSM theories of yours.

 

[Bomb#20]

You are not making any sense. Your views are self contradictory.

By all means, feel free to exhibit the self contradiction.

I already did.

No, you exhibited somebody else and I contradicting each other. That's not a self contradiction because somebody else and I aren't a self.

I most certainly did show the contradictions in MSM theories of yours.

The heck are you on about? I don't own any MSM outlets, and the MSM's (stipulatedly numerous) self-contradictory theories aren't mine. So what theories does the phrase "MSM theories of yours" refer to?