Pogroms and blaming the Jews

[Loren Pechtel]

The hate comes from the terror money, not from the reality.

Being locked in an open air prison for merely existing is pretty real. But nah, that had no effect.

The problems predate anything Israel did.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Propaganda sites are more frequently wrong.

And there is an eyewitness in this thread tgat verified the videos existence.

You're not addressing the scenario I propose at all.

We have testimony that it exists. We have news organizations removing mentions of it. What fits both of these? That the video exists but is not what it purports to be. Simplest option that fits the facts, why are you ignoring it?

No, the simplest explanation is the one you don’t like: it exists and it is what it purports to be.

You're still trying to pretend it wasn't a setup.

They just convicted five of them.

Five found guilty in Amsterdam riots after Ajax-Maccabi Tel Aviv football match

The first five men brought to trial for rioting in Amsterdam that targeted Israeli and Jewish football fans were found guilty on various charges related to the violence.

nltimes.nl

 

[Arctish]

The hate comes from the terror money, not from the reality.

Being locked in an open air prison for merely existing is pretty real. But nah, that had no effect.

The problems predate anything Israel did.

Because Israel was the result of bloodshed and strife, not the origin of it. And Israel continues to expand through bloodshed and violence. The strife is ongoing.

 

[laughing dog]

Propaganda sites are more frequently wrong.

And there is an eyewitness in this thread tgat verified the videos existence.

You're not addressing the scenario I propose at all.

We have testimony that it exists. We have news organizations removing mentions of it. What fits both of these? That the video exists but is not what it purports to be. Simplest option that fits the facts, why are you ignoring it?

No, the simplest explanation is the one you don’t like: it exists and it is what it purports to be.

You're still trying to pretend it wasn't a setup.

I’m not the one concocting conspiracy theories and making outrageous accusations of pogroms to explain soccer hooliganism - you are.

They just convicted five of them.

Good

 

[Jarhyn]

It is, in fact, antisemitic to accuse people of antisemitism for valid criticisms of current Israeli official policy.

This is because it declares such bad faith action to be part and parcel with being a Jew. It is not; plenty of Jews object!

It says, in some fundamental way, that this kind of behavior is a part of Jewish identity.

The very reason that racism and stereotyping are harmful is because they tie an assumption of bad behavior to a person's heritage.

Am I wrong in seeing that the false accusations of antisemitism in the criticism of manifest-destiny zionism are antisemtic?