Politics and religion: almost no atheists voted for Trump

[ZiprHead]

I’m an atheist who voted for the big, bad, orange man. Will do again in November.

Trausti, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being terrible and 10 being full perfection, where do you rank President Trump?

6 or 7.

I think you forgot the decimal point.

 

[James Brown]

Any reason why it's not higher? Even an 8 or 9?

 

[Toni]

6 or 7.

I think you forgot the decimal point.

And a zero or two to the left of those digits.

 

[Toni]

I can understand why atheists wouldn't vote for Trump.

Me, too. What I truly don’t understand is how any person of faith—no matter what religion-/could vote for Trump. He is a serial adulterer who is completely unrepentant about his cheating, is highly disrespectful of women, disparages and insults disabled people in vile terms, used vile and insulting language to describe women and how he treats them, uses insulting and denigrating language to describe anyone who disagrees with him in the slightest, and is an extremely dishonest businessman, stiffing a long line of contractors. He belittled the poor and the dick and does his best to cheat them and is in no way generous to those less fortunate. He advocates violence against those who disagree with him. He is insincere in everything he says unless it is praising himself.
He’s a bigot and a racist and a liar and a cheat.

These are all current, ongoing behaviors. It isn’t as though he is proclaiming that he once was a sinner and now is trying to be reformed.

How do you, as a Christian, reconcile these public behaviors with wanting him to be POTUS?

Well, how can any person of faith support the killing of the unborn? It’s complicated, right?

Nope. Not at all complicated. Even my devout catholic friends cannot abide him.

 

[Trausti]

6 or 7.

I think you forgot the decimal point.

And a zero or two to the left of those digits.

He’s hedged on the allotment of H-1B visas, permitting the large importation of low tech workers to compete against Americans. He also tried to ban vaping flavors. That was stupid.

 

[ronburgundy]

I can understand why atheists wouldn't vote for Trump.

Me, too. What I truly don’t understand is how any person of faith—no matter what religion-/could vote for Trump. He is a serial adulterer who is completely unrepentant about his cheating, is highly disrespectful of women, disparages and insults disabled people in vile terms, used vile and insulting language to describe women and how he treats them, uses insulting and denigrating language to describe anyone who disagrees with him in the slightest, and is an extremely dishonest businessman, stiffing a long line of contractors. He belittled the poor and the dick and does his best to cheat them and is in no way generous to those less fortunate. He advocates violence against those who disagree with him. He is insincere in everything he says unless it is praising himself.
He’s a bigot and a racist and a liar and a cheat.

These are all current, ongoing behaviors. It isn’t as though he is proclaiming that he once was a sinner and now is trying to be reformed.

How do you, as a Christian, reconcile these public behaviors with wanting him to be POTUS?

Most of those behaviors are accurate descriptions of the God of Abraham that Christians, Muslims and Jews worship and praise. And Jesus praised that same God and endorsed the entire OT. It's far more surprising how any remotely decent human being who rejects those attitudes and behaviors could still endorse Christianity, Islam, or Judaism.

 

[Lion IRC]

I think a sizeable majority of conservative Christians voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils, and everyone else voted based on their hip pocket.

Toni's list of anti-Trump grievances may be accurate but it (obviously) didn't stop him from winning the election.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I think a sizeable majority of conservative Christians voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils...

Trump is evil... Clinton is a shrewd, self-centered politician, not evil.

Toni's list of anti-Trump grievances may be accurate but it (obviously) didn't stop him from winning the election.

Winning the Electoral College, yes. He did all of that and the conservative Christian women carried signs saying 'Trump can grab me by the pussy'. In other words, conservative Christians are full of it.

 

[Tammuz]

Evangelicals don't vote for Trump for his personal qualities, they voted and will vote for him for two reasons: anti-abortion judges and pro-Israel pandering.

And he's male, and he's white, and he doesn't like Muslims.

Ask the Saudis.

 

[ronburgundy]

I think a sizeable majority of conservative Christians voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils, and everyone else voted based on their hip pocket.

Toni's list of anti-Trump grievances may be accurate but it (obviously) didn't stop him from winning the election.

That's the point. It didn't stop Trump from winning because evangelicals and all Trump supporters have no strong objections to rape, misogyny, white supremacy, and fascistic threats against those who question authority. This isn't surprising since their whole theistic worldview is founded on authoritarianism, misogyny and violently intolerant tribalistic bigotry.

 

[lpetrich]

Evangelicals don't vote for Trump for his personal qualities, they voted and will vote for him for two reasons: anti-abortion judges and pro-Israel pandering.

And he's male, and he's white, and he doesn't like Muslims.

Ask the Saudis.

He makes exceptions for Muslims with lots of money.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Ask the Saudis.

He makes exceptions for Muslims with lots of money.

For some, money is like boobs. There can be enough thst you don't even see the face.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Ask the Saudis.

He makes exceptions for Muslims with lots of money.

Thank-you. When it comes to enriching himself he doesn't play favorites.