President Dear Leader Commuted Hero Roger Stone's Sentence

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

President Trump’s Friday night commutation of the unjust 40-month prison sentence given to Roger Stone for convictions of lying to Congress and witness tampering was necessary to correct a grave injustice and abuse of power.

Now — at long last — the tragedy of Stone’s wrongful and politically motivated indictment, trial, conviction, sentencing and the rejection of his appeal is nearly over. This is a prosecution that should have never happened, and one that was motivated entirely by ego, politics and hatred of President Trump.

The saga began with a predawn SWAT team raid on Stone’s Florida home, televised by a gleeful CNN crew that — by an amazing “coincidence” – happened to be on the scene. It looked like a bad made-for-TV movie about the takedown of an armed and dangerous terrorist leader of the caliber of Usama bin Laden — when, in fact, Stone was unarmed and posed no danger to anyone.

Thankfully, President Trump has now acted in the interests of justice so that the 67-year-old Stone — who is not in the prime of good health — has been able to avoid a potential death sentence due to his vulnerability COVID-19 if he were imprisoned. Ironically, our prisons are being emptied of dangerous criminals at the very same time that the harmless Stone was about to be committed to life-threatening confinement.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/roger-stone-commuted-trump-harmeet-dhillon

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Well, this all may well not be over. If Stone's sentence has been commuted, he know longer can claim a fifth amendment right. He could thus be called to testify under oath about all of this. Aimed at possible legal penalties for Ttrump as to Trump's involvement with illegal dealings connected to the Russian interference with an election. He cannot be convicted for his part in that. But he could be prosecuted for lying or refusing to testify. A procedure to finally get to the bottom of all of this, a final accounting for the American people. If Trump loses and is tossed out of office, he loses the rights he has claimed as president that places him above legal actions, or even investigation. And he won't have Barr to interfere on his behalf. If Trump goes, Barr goes.

Stay tuned for more.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Here are all the judges appointed by Obama:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Barack_Obama

Here are all the judges appointed by Trump:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

Trump has not yet been in office a full term. Obama was in office two terms.

Look at the counts.

SC justices: 2 for Trump; 2 for Obama
Appeals: 53 for Trump; 55 for Obama
District Judges: 187 for Trump; 268 for Obama

By the time Trump is done he will have installed some 3 or 4 SC justices. 100 Appeals court judges. 400 District court judges.

Now, Obama was mostly nominating moderates but also some liberals. Trump is appointing hardline conservatives.

Roger Stone is going to go for an appeal. If he doesn't get what he wants he will do it again. With all the conservatives, he likely will get what he wants.

Also, likely, the Trump stuff in courts will blow over because of all these installations.

 

[ideologyhunter]

One morbidly curious result of the unsolvable political entrenchment in the U.S. is that Trump and his crime cartel DOJ don't bother to conceal their corruption. They do everything out in the open. They know they've got the Senate, Fox News, and the core crazies firmly in their grip. Trump knew what he was talking about 5 years ago when he said he could commit murder and not lose any votes. This is jaw-dropping, if you can manage to look at it with a refreshed perspective. It should force us to look again at our Constitution to see if anything can be done to safeguard against this level of malfeasance. All it takes to nullify the protections built into the Constitution is a political party that throws all moral and legal principles out the window in the interest of holding power. I'm unable to imagine how bad things will get if Trump is a two-termer.

 

[Horatio Parker]

Well, this all may well not be over. If Stone's sentence has been commuted, he know longer can claim a fifth amendment right. He could thus be called to testify under oath about all of this. Aimed at possible legal penalties for Ttrump as to Trump's involvement with illegal dealings connected to the Russian interference with an election. He cannot be convicted for his part in that. But he could be prosecuted for lying or refusing to testify. A procedure to finally get to the bottom of all of this, a final accounting for the American people. If Trump loses and is tossed out of office, he loses the rights he has claimed as president that places him above legal actions, or even investigation. And he won't have Barr to interfere on his behalf. If Trump goes, Barr goes.

Stay tuned for more.

I've read the opposite: Stone can plead the fifth with a commutation. That would justify, to Trump, a commutation instead of a pardon.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Well, this all may well not be over. If Stone's sentence has been commuted, he know longer can claim a fifth amendment right. He could thus be called to testify under oath about all of this. Aimed at possible legal penalties for Ttrump as to Trump's involvement with illegal dealings connected to the Russian interference with an election. He cannot be convicted for his part in that. But he could be prosecuted for lying or refusing to testify. A procedure to finally get to the bottom of all of this, a final accounting for the American people. If Trump loses and is tossed out of office, he loses the rights he has claimed as president that places him above legal actions, or even investigation. And he won't have Barr to interfere on his behalf. If Trump goes, Barr goes.

Stay tuned for more.

I've read the opposite: Stone can plead the fifth with a commutation. That would justify, to Trump, a commutation instead of a pardon.

Yes. Because with a commutation, the conviction stands and his right to appeal leaving the possibility of Stone further incriminating himself.
See Scooter Libby.

 

[Shadowy Man]

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[blastula]

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[Shadowy Man]

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Good thing for Trump that he didn't pardon Stone, then.

 

[blastula]

The principle is the same, but it still won't matter.

 

[Shadowy Man]

The principle is the same, but it still won't matter.

This crowd always tries to get out of things on semantic technicalities.

Like when Trump tried to weasel out of when he said the positive coronavirus cases would go down to zero. Technically, he's correct, that some day they will.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The principle is the same, but it still won't matter.

This crowd always tries to get out of things on semantic technicalities.

Like when Trump tried to weasel out of when he said the positive coronavirus cases would go down to zero. Technically, he's correct, that some day they will.

We don't actually know that. There are probably too many people that'd refuse to get the vaccine.

 

[Shadowy Man]

The principle is the same, but it still won't matter.

This crowd always tries to get out of things on semantic technicalities.

Like when Trump tried to weasel out of when he said the positive coronavirus cases would go down to zero. Technically, he's correct, that some day they will.

We don't actually know that. There are probably too many people that'd refuse to get the vaccine.

But *some day*, it will go to zero, right?