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Before WWII and the Nazis propaganda was not a bad word. It was used in marketing and advertising.

Today Amazon is doing exactly what was outlined in the book. Data mining deducing consumer habits and how to manipulate them. The Obama campaign had a large data base used to tailor emails to certain types of individuals.

Russians are using the techniques on social media.

Is there nay hope of getting large scale awareness of manipulation? The current political madness says higher education is not an antidote.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)

Propaganda, an influential book written by Edward L. Bernays in 1928, incorporated the literature from social science and psychological manipulation into an examination of the techniques of public communication. Bernays wrote the book in response to the success of some of his earlier works such as Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923) and A Public Relations Counsel (1927). Propaganda explored the psychology behind manipulating masses and the ability to use symbolic action and propaganda to influence politics, effect social change, and lobby for gender and racial equality.[1] Walter Lippman was Bernays’ unacknowledged American mentor and his work The Phantom Public greatly influenced the ideas expressed in Propaganda a year later.[2] The work propelled Bernays into media historians’ view of him as the “father of public relations.”[3]

Chapters one through six address the complex relationship between human psychology, democracy, and corporations. Bernays’ thesis is that “invisible” people who create knowledge and propaganda rule over the masses, with a monopoly on the power to shape thoughts, values, and citizen response.[4] “Engineering consent” of the masses would be vital for the survival of democracy.[5] Bernays explains:

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.”[6]

Bernays expands this argument to the economic realm, appreciating the positive impact of propaganda in the service of capitalism.[7]

“A single factory, potentially capable of supplying a whole continent with its particular product, cannot afford to wait until the public asks for its product; it must maintain constant touch, through advertising and propaganda, with the vast public in order to assure itself the continuous demand which alone will make its costly plant profitable.”[8]

Bernays places great importance on the ability of a propaganda producer, as he views himself, to unlock the motives behind an individual’s desires, not simply the reason an individual might offer. He argues, “Man’s thoughts and actions are compensatory substitutes for desires which he has been obliged to suppress.”[9] Bernays suggests that propaganda may become increasingly effective and influential through the discovery of audiences’ hidden motives. He asserts that the emotional response inherently present in propaganda limits the audience’s choices by creating a binary mentality, which can result in quicker, more enthused responses.[10] The final five chapters largely reiterate the concepts voiced earlier in the book and provide case studies for how to use propaganda to effectively advance women’s rights, education, and social services.[11]
 
It seems to me that many (if not the majority) of people simply do not care. As long as they have their precious phones and the services that are provided, apps, social media, shopping, etc, all is fine. Principles such as privacy, manipulation or excessive advertising fall by the wayside, perhaps a degree of token outrage at best.
 
It seems to me that many (if not the majority) of people simply do not care. As long as they have their precious phones and the services that are provided, apps, social media, shopping, etc, all is fine. Principles such as privacy, manipulation or excessive advertising fall by the wayside, perhaps a degree of token outrage at best.

Evidenced by the lack if interests in the topic.

People are happy being sheep.
 
Furthermore;

''For a much more sinister invasion of privacy had gone unnoticed. A week before, Google had, without any fanfare, released 11 software applications for mobile phones that spell a fundamental change in our lives.

Among the applications were functions such as text messaging, web browsing, a diary, Orkut - the company's social networking offering - and a program for Google Maps. Innocent enough, perhaps. But combined they would allow Google to know what you are doing all of the time. A truly Orwellian development that has been described by privacy campaigners as "a catastrophic corruption of consent".

Far-fetched? Not at all.

Google says it tries "to make it clear in all cases what we are doing with a specific program. Our policy is always that people should opt into the services we offer."

But this position is not good enough for the campaign group Privacy International, which is planning to raise the matter with MPs next week. "This is a catastrophic corruption of consent. People are being told that they are signing up for marketing when in fact they are being opted into a massive surveillance strategy," says Simon Davies, director of Privacy International.

SAS's Read goes even further: "People do not realise the huge potential of this information for controlling our lives. We are sleepwalking into a minefield."
 
Before WWII and the Nazis propaganda was not a bad word. It was used in marketing and advertising.

Today Amazon is doing exactly what was outlined in the book. Data mining deducing consumer habits and how to manipulate them. The Obama campaign had a large data base used to tailor emails to certain types of individuals.

Russians are using the techniques on social media.

Is there nay hope of getting large scale awareness of manipulation? The current political madness says higher education is not an antidote.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)

Propaganda, an influential book written by Edward L. Bernays in 1928, incorporated the literature from social science and psychological manipulation into an examination of the techniques of public communication. Bernays wrote the book in response to the success of some of his earlier works such as Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923) and A Public Relations Counsel (1927). Propaganda explored the psychology behind manipulating masses and the ability to use symbolic action and propaganda to influence politics, effect social change, and lobby for gender and racial equality.[1] Walter Lippman was Bernays’ unacknowledged American mentor and his work The Phantom Public greatly influenced the ideas expressed in Propaganda a year later.[2] The work propelled Bernays into media historians’ view of him as the “father of public relations.”[3]

Chapters one through six address the complex relationship between human psychology, democracy, and corporations. Bernays’ thesis is that “invisible” people who create knowledge and propaganda rule over the masses, with a monopoly on the power to shape thoughts, values, and citizen response.[4] “Engineering consent” of the masses would be vital for the survival of democracy.[5] Bernays explains:

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.”[6]

Bernays expands this argument to the economic realm, appreciating the positive impact of propaganda in the service of capitalism.[7]

“A single factory, potentially capable of supplying a whole continent with its particular product, cannot afford to wait until the public asks for its product; it must maintain constant touch, through advertising and propaganda, with the vast public in order to assure itself the continuous demand which alone will make its costly plant profitable.”[8]

Bernays places great importance on the ability of a propaganda producer, as he views himself, to unlock the motives behind an individual’s desires, not simply the reason an individual might offer. He argues, “Man’s thoughts and actions are compensatory substitutes for desires which he has been obliged to suppress.”[9] Bernays suggests that propaganda may become increasingly effective and influential through the discovery of audiences’ hidden motives. He asserts that the emotional response inherently present in propaganda limits the audience’s choices by creating a binary mentality, which can result in quicker, more enthused responses.[10] The final five chapters largely reiterate the concepts voiced earlier in the book and provide case studies for how to use propaganda to effectively advance women’s rights, education, and social services.[11]

Everybody is of course a victim of this. But don't equate propaganda as inherently evil or maliciously manipulative. We also use propaganda to spread ideas of democracy and free speech. We use it to spread LGBT awareness. Feminism. Etc. I see propaganda as nothing but a way to package ideas, good or bad. Communication theory is all about conveying information in a way that manipulates other people's behaviour in a way that is beneficial to you.
 
I think what we are lacking is a national propaganda campaign, one that sells compromise. It was argued was that the VN War lacked the propaganda backing of WWII. There was a silent majority that supported the war. The anti war movement supported by media won the propaganda war.

Climate change lacks a consistent propaganda camping that riches the opposition. The conservative counter propaganda citing job loss from green energy is winning.

Today there is a consistent propaganda campaign painting in ages of our enemy and arguing if not in the mid east we fight them in Manhattan. And it is working.

The Israelis under Netanyahu have had a successful propaganda campaign to equate Israel to the USA and that they should be supported no matter what they do. Netanyahu has talked about these programs openly, but would not call it propaganda.

The author of the book said a complex large scale society like the USA can not function without propaganda as a glue.

The American Dream is propaganda that is part myth and part reality.

Positive propaganda. Antibody member the A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Wasre commercial by the United Negro College Fund? I never forgot it. Can't find the actual commercial.

https://adage.com/article/goodworks/a-mind-a-terrible-thing-waste-iconic-campaign-turns-40/149182/
“A Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Waste” has become emblematic of some of the best values of America -- a belief in equal opportunity, in education, in human dignity and hope. And some of the best values in advertising, too: the timelessness of great emotional creative that’s rooted in insight, in emotion, in a great story that has the power to create a legacy.



https://adage.com/article/goodworks/a-mind-a-terrible-thing-waste-iconic-campaign-turns-40/149182/
 
It seems to me that many (if not the majority) of people simply do not care. As long as they have their precious phones and the services that are provided, apps, social media, shopping, etc, all is fine. Principles such as privacy, manipulation or excessive advertising fall by the wayside, perhaps a degree of token outrage at best.

Evidenced by the lack if interests in the topic.

People are happy being sheep.

Nah, people just don't come to a discussion board to read cut-and-paste from Wikipedia. If we want to read Wiki articles, we will go directly to the source. That goes double for Wiki articles about books or other media. Why would I want to read your cut/paste of an article about a book, when I could instead read the book itself? If the book says something controversial, why not quote that as a conversation starter, and cut out the middleman?

Without the cut-and-paste, the OP is just a statement of the bloody obvious. What is there to discuss?

Propaganda simply implies ideas that propagate through society. These days they are called 'memes', or they would be if the word hadn't been repurposed to mean 'cat pictures with funny captions'.

Powerful people, both in government and in business, have always sought to manipulate people to do and/or believe things. Every previous advance in technology has been bent to this task; The use of phones and the internet; or radio, newspapers and billboards, to do this is nether unexpected nor abnormal.

Advertising and marketing suck. But we can't seem to do anything about them. What is there to discuss? Are you under the misapprehension that there are people on this forum who are cheerleaders for propaganda? If there is general agreement on a topic, then discussion is redundant.
 
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