Nice Squirrel
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Malintent
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Who is Nooney and why are you so obsessed with their feet?
Malintent
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OK, "Racial Fluidity" would be a first step in eliminating the notion of race. "Gender Fluidity" did exactly that about sexual identity.. It is no longer binary. A Problem I see with eliminating notions of race with "Fluidity" is the notion of "Cultural Appropriation".. I believe that would be an obstruction to "Racial Fluidity", since race and culture are so closely paired.
TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
Off campus, there is no such thing as "gender fluidity".
repoman
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repoman
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A lot of this has to do with partially black people being treated as all black and not white at all. If people didn't care, then she would have been seen as 25% black african at most and the rest likely white european.
Her claiming to be "black" at only 25% best case would be considered inaccurate.
Mixed race should be used more. Hell, even using mulatto, quadroon or octaroon is more sensible than calling a 25% black / 75% white person "black". Black is seen as a contamination in this language.
Her claiming to be "black" at only 25% best case would be considered inaccurate.
Mixed race should be used more. Hell, even using mulatto, quadroon or octaroon is more sensible than calling a 25% black / 75% white person "black". Black is seen as a contamination in this language.
Malintent
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That was true some time ago, but it is leaking out all over the place.
We should simply stop caring about "race". The culture is ready. Those who profit from racism are not, and it is they who push it so strongly. I can't even remember the last time I was treated poorly or sworn at for being not white, other than by those who stood to actually profit from doing so. And yes, that also includes those non white people who want to profit from their "oppression".
As for gender, be what you want, but don't expect us to call you by your preferred pronouns. If you identify as a woman, good for you, but doesn't mean I must stop seeing you as a man.
As for gender, be what you want, but don't expect us to call you by your preferred pronouns. If you identify as a woman, good for you, but doesn't mean I must stop seeing you as a man.
Alcoholic Actuary
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That's fine. It just makes it easier to know who the asshole is.
you: 'Do you prefer James, Jim, Jimmy?'
them: 'I prefer James'
you: 'Yeah, well I'm going to call you Jimmy the JizzEater'
Only if you were concerned with courtesy and politeness would you refer to people according to their preference. (but it's never a requirement).
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TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
I prefer "Your Royal Highness Sir James of Camelot". You had better indulge me lest you be an impolite little oik.
LordKiran
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So petty beiber/pony level problems then?
repoman
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This is why I like the term trans-man and trans-woman meaning (XX --> ♂) and (XY --> ♀) respectively. It acknowledges chromosomes and gender brain-identity in one word. It also pisses off extremists on both sides.
I would call a transwoman a woman most of the time and a transwoman when it clarified a situation and was needed.
If someone asked "is Jennifer a woman?", I would say "She is a transwoman".
I would call a transwoman a woman most of the time and a transwoman when it clarified a situation and was needed.
If someone asked "is Jennifer a woman?", I would say "She is a transwoman".
J842P
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This has always made the most sense to me.
First, why is someone asking you if Jennifer is a woman? And if that really happened, why wouldn't a grownup respond by saying, "Ask Jennifer"? Since when does your logic determine what others call themselves?
You say your name here is repoman, but I think I will call you something else according to what I think your name should be, to be determined at my leisure. Your name, your sexual identity and orientation, etc., will be discussed with the terminology that I choose for you. Clearly, like transgender people, you don't have the wherewithal to know what's the best way to refer to yourself.
This makes sense. And I shall stop being a night owl and start identifying as a morning person. I'll be a trans-am.
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Not really the same thing. Its more like if I demanded that you address me as an actual Penguin (We penguins get quite annoyed at you humans when you don't) or as this lady did, demand that you declare us another race, etc. Or maybe I'll identify as tall.
If we must accept trans-men and trans-women, then it's just pure hypocrisy not to accept Dolezal as a beautiful black woman.
Ahead of her time.
Ahead of her time.
repoman
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I think Thailand has a better grip on transgender issues than the US.
The transgender are not allowed to change gender on identification and they are clear that transgender are exactly that "kathoey", no more no less. Not that MTF are female only and no questioning or acknowledgment of that FACT is allowed, or on the other side that they will never be women but are only men. The truth is exactly in the middle and the Thai recognize that.
Uptight christians can't deal with reality and liberal loonies can't either. Thai and Indians with their "Hijira" can deal with this reality. Transgender women are transgender women, they are NOT women and they are NOT men.
The transgender are not allowed to change gender on identification and they are clear that transgender are exactly that "kathoey", no more no less. Not that MTF are female only and no questioning or acknowledgment of that FACT is allowed, or on the other side that they will never be women but are only men. The truth is exactly in the middle and the Thai recognize that.
Uptight christians can't deal with reality and liberal loonies can't either. Thai and Indians with their "Hijira" can deal with this reality. Transgender women are transgender women, they are NOT women and they are NOT men.
So in your travels to Thailand have you been with the Ladyboys? Asking for a friend.