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The latest bit of hypocrisy and lying from the GOP.

Of course, McConnel the shitstain wants to cut social security and medicare now to pay for the big tax break they gave to all their rich friends.

We all predicted it. Saw it coming, warned the old people, and they mostly voted GOP anyway. Hard to feel sorry for them. I only feel bad for the ones who didn't sign up for this major screwage.
 
Well, given that this has been their publically stated strategy for decades, it's difficult to imagine any surprise at their using this as their strategy.

It would be like expressing surprise that the Superman Fan Club made a statement that they want to have more TV shows and movies about Superman.
 
And Social Security is not just the old. It is the disabled, the blind, the mentally dysfunctional.

This is taking money from the most vulnerable to give tax breaks to those who need the money least.

It is as contemptible as a thing could be.
 
phands said:
Not surprised at all, just heartsick at gop callousness.
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Calculated callousness. The "keep your damned government hands off my Medicare" voter will not be harmed by this, because the benefit cuts won't kick in for at least a few years...maybe a decade or more.

If Mitch announced that there would be massive benefit cuts starting immediately, the older voters the GOP depends on would be pissed. So whatever plan the Republicans have will kick the cuts can down the road, because neither they nor older voters give a fuck if the next generation gets screwed.
 
The deficit is rising, so Republicans want to cut Social Security and Medicare

Is there anything . more despicable than the gop now?

Republicans have removed all doubt: When it comes to the federal deficit, the problem is Medicare and Social Security — not their own tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.


Fresh off the news that the deficit is increasing under President Donald Trump, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told Bloomberg News that Congress should target Social Security and Medicare for cuts to address the growing federal debt.


The federal deficit grew by nearly $800 billion over the first fiscal year of Trump’s presidency, during which the Republican Congress passed a tax cut targeted mostly to corporations and the wealthy, which is projected to add more than $1 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years.


The White House and GOP leaders promised that despite all projections to the contrary, the tax cuts would pay for themselves. That hasn’t materialized so far.


But, of course, a growing federal deficit hasn’t caused Republican leaders to reconsider their tax policy. Instead, they argue that entitlement reform — Republican-speak for cuts to popular social safety net programs — is what’s really needed to address the federal deficit.
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...eficit-social-security-medicare-2018-midterms
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ames-entitlements-not-gop-for-rising-deficits

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell blamed rising federal deficits and debt on a bipartisan unwillingness to contain spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, and said he sees little chance of a major deficit reduction deal while Republicans control Congress and the White House.

“It’s disappointing, but it’s not a Republican problem,” McConnell said Tuesday in an interview with Bloomberg News when asked about the rising deficits and debt. “It’s a bipartisan problem: unwillingness to address the real drivers of the debt by doing anything to adjust those programs to the demographics of America in the future.”

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This story contains a link to the Bloomberg interview with McConnell. There is no mistake about what he said.
 
I would agree that the Democrats and Republicans have both done nothing to address Social Security and Medicare solvency. However, that needs to be put in the context of any reform to either of those programs by Democrats would have instantly been dead on arrival to the GOP. And also, the GOP has been in charge of Congress for how long, and have a Republican in the White House, and they haven't even put forth a plan to vote on.
Cheerful Charlie said:
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/mi...e-republicans-might-revisit-obamacare-repeal/

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Republicans could try again to repeal Obamacare if they win enough seats in U.S. elections next month, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said on Wednesday, calling a failed 2017 push to repeal the healthcare law a “disappointment.”
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And this also. McConnell runs for re-election in 2020.
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Well, if the Dems win the House, ACA isn't going anywhere, even if the GOP expands their majority in the Senate.
 
Well, it’s not like the low approval numbers are going to translate into his losing his seat, so they’re not important.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
Well, it’s not like the low approval numbers are going to translate into his losing his seat, so they’re not important.
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I suspect otherwise. His stunts with Kavanaugh and Garland have energized women voters big time. His attacks of ACA and SS, Medicare and Medicaid will further his slide to oblivion. If he fails here, he angers his small core of GOP morons. If he does a half hearted attempt and of course fails, the right will be infuriated. If he tries to do all of this, he will piss off everybody else.

In 2020, a lot of GOP Senate seats will be up for re-election, and many of them may be vulnerable. Signing on with Mitch for these actions will make their re-election fights much harder. 2020 is a presidential election year that guarantees a high voter turnout. And with rising abandonment of the GOP by women voters, the gender gap is going to be ferocious. It ain't going away. All that is needed is a credible and serious Democratic opponent for McConnell.

Even if he survives a vote, a small miracle as far as I can see, the misery and woe he has brought down on the GOP by his rat fucking politics may lose him the Senate leadership like Newt Gangrene lost his House leadership by his outrageous tin eared antics. That does not mean the GOP will give up rat fucking, simply that throwing Mitch to the wolves may buy them a little peace for few months.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
Tom Sawyer said:
Well, it’s not like the low approval numbers are going to translate into his losing his seat, so they’re not important.
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I suspect otherwise. His stunts with Kavanaugh and Garland have energized women voters big time. His attacks of ACA and SS, Medicare and Medicaid will further his slide to oblivion. If he fails here, he angers his small core of GOP morons. If he does a half hearted attempt and of course fails, the right will be infuriated. If he tries to do all of this, he will piss off everybody else.

In 2020, a lot of GOP Senate seats will be up for re-election, and many of them may be vulnerable. Signing on with Mitch for these actions will make their re-election fights much harder. 2020 is a presidential election year that guarantees a high voter turnout. And with rising abandonment of the GOP by women voters, the gender gap is going to be ferocious. It ain't going away. All that is needed is a credible and serious Democratic opponent for McConnell.

Even if he survives a vote, a small miracle as far as I can see, the misery and woe he has brought down on the GOP by his rat fucking politics may lose him the Senate leadership like Newt Gangrene lost his House leadership by his outrageous tin eared antics. That does not mean the GOP will give up rat fucking, simply that throwing Mitch to the wolves may buy them a little peace for few months.
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As a reminder, a majority of white women voted for Trump... after the Access Hollywood tape was released. Nothing is certain.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/07/politics/poll-of-the-week-largest-gender-gap-on-record/index.html

Poll of the week: A new Quinnipiac University poll finds that among women Democrats are leading on the generic congressional ballot by a 58% to 33%, a 25-point margin. Republicans, though, lead among men 50% to 42%, an 8-point margin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/12/...tml?rref=collection/sectioncollection/opinion

Significantly, white women, a majority of whom backed Trump in 2016, now say they intend to vote for Democratic House candidates in 2018 by a 14-point margin, 52-38, according to Quinnipiac. White men say they intend to vote for Republican House candidates 56-38 in 2018.

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The GOP has lost white women voters. With McConnell's stated plans, Trump has a choice. Sign on to the Mitch plan, oppose it, shut up and pretend he doesn't notice Mitch and his stated Senate goals. I doubt Trump will go the war with the GOP Senate radicals and their leader Mitch McConnell. With Mitch in control, I see no way for the GOP to not lose big in 2020.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/07/politics/poll-of-the-week-largest-gender-gap-on-record/index.html

Poll of the week: A new Quinnipiac University poll finds that among women Democrats are leading on the generic congressional ballot by a 58% to 33%, a 25-point margin. Republicans, though, lead among men 50% to 42%, an 8-point margin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/12/...tml?rref=collection/sectioncollection/opinion

Significantly, white women, a majority of whom backed Trump in 2016, now say they intend to vote for Democratic House candidates in 2018 by a 14-point margin, 52-38, according to Quinnipiac. White men say they intend to vote for Republican House candidates 56-38 in 2018.

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The GOP has lost white women voters. With McConnell's stated plans, Trump has a choice. Sign on to the Mitch plan, oppose it, shut up and pretend he doesn't notice Mitch and his stated Senate goals. I doubt Trump will go the war with the GOP Senate radicals and their leader Mitch McConnell. With Mitch in control, I see no way for the GOP to not lose big in 2020.
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I hope that you are right. It's been very disappointing to see so many white women support Trump and conservatives.
 
As someone who has paid FICA all my life and is about to become a social security recipient in the not too distant future (I am currently 61), these are my thoughts.

Its not really important what McConnell or the Republicans or the Democrats decide to do anymore. Because that ship sailed right around when Clinton was still in office. This country now has a serious deficit problem and getting redder by the hour. So if the Republicans decide to cut benefits I'm going to get screwed. And if the Democrats don't cut benefits.....I'm still preparing to get screwed......unless someone has around $21 Trillion dollars to give to Uncle Sam. Either way I'm planning getting screwed.

The only light I can see at all right now is President Trump bringing high value jobs back to this country. Something that is actually happening as we speak. I figure if younger people can find quality jobs and pay into the system again, there may be some possible chance I won't have to eat dog food after I am too old to work!
 
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