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Again.

Dogs Remember Faces
Research strongly supports that dogs remember and recognize their human companions.

This is all conjecture. Where is the proof? I gave real examples of dogs not recognizing their owners until they sniffed them. Why are you ignoring this and trusting an article that has no proof of anything?

It's not conjure. Did you see the cited studies, methods explained, results published?

You brush aside anything that contradicts your faith in ideas that have no support, that cannot be justified.
 
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Dogs Remember Faces
Research strongly supports that dogs remember and recognize their human companions.

This is all conjecture. Where is the proof? I gave real examples of dogs not recognizing their owners until they sniffed them. Why are you ignoring this and trusting an article that has no proof of anything?

It's not conjure. Did you see the cited studies, methods explained, results published?

You brush aside anything that contradicts your faith in ideas that have no support, that cannot be justified.
You’re off base. This account has nothing to do with remembering people. It’s obvious dogs remember. Where are the dogs that can recognize their loved companion without other cues? Something concrete. Why are you making a category error? Are you doing this purposely? 🫩 This account certainly can be justified. You are the one that is in denial, not me. Why are you turning your nose up when seeing real live videos I have posted as if they don’t count, but would rather trust an article that doesn’t have one whit of proof? They even used the phrase “supports the idea of” because there is no proof they can hang their hats on.
 
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I am asking participants to please put this subject on hold as it is an emotional issue that I personally cannot overcome. If anyone is interested in his other discoveries, I will be happy to engage in a conversation. PS. this is not just for my benefit. It’s for all of our benefit and worth your time. But the attacks are ruining the chances that this knowledge can break through the dogma. Many discoverers had the same problem and their discoveries were not recognized until years and years later. I hope this doesn’t happen here but unfortunately we are on the same trajectory. 🥲
 
I am asking participants to please put this subject on hold as it is an emotional issue that I personally cannot overcome. If anyone is interested in his other discoveries, I will be happy to engage in a conversation. PS. this is not just for my benefit. It’s for all of our benefit and worth your time. But the attacks are ruining the chances that this knowledge can break through the dogma. Many discoverers had the same problem and their discoveries were not recognized until years and years later. I hope this doesn’t happen here but unfortunately we are on the same trajectory. 🥲

You tried this same gambit any number of times at FF and I’m sure other boards you’ve been. All it does is to further undermine your reputation. People here are free to talk about whatever they want, including you. If you don’t want to talk about real-time seeing, then don’t. We may wish to talk about it among ourselves.

The above is a passive-aggressive form of attack, assuming what is not in evidence — that your author made a discovery. He didn’t. Nobody except you is emotional. No one here feels threatened by a non-discovery. If he HAD a discovery, we would be cheering him on. He had no knowledge, and we have no dogma. You are insulting us by implying that we have. What always has been asked of you is this: to defend your author’s ideas forthrightly and in good faith. That is exactly what you have never done, because you can’t. There is nothing to defend, no substance.

if you really wanted to have a productive discussion, long ago you would have met our rebuttals head on. Instead you evade every one of them by falling back on pre-scripted rhetoric. Case in point: you were given a clear way that you personally could test your writer’s ideas on light and sight. How? By merely watching the sun rise in the morning. Have you done this? No. Have you explained why this test is insufficient? No. You simply declaim that it is, and then move on to the next evasion.

If people here do periodically feel irate, it is not because of your author’s non-discovery. It is because of your persistent evasions and refusal to engage in good-faith discussion.
 
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I could speculate on the environment Pg grew up in, but that would probably be going too far.

For me it was not until I was in my 30s I began to fully understand how the environment I grew up in affected me. Bad habits I inhered from my father.

Out of line? Again you argue your failures areother people's fault right?

It could not be your lack science and Lessans' pseudoscience. and his conspiracy theories about universities.

Delusions of grandeur and paranoia. Like Trump.

I am familiar with a number of pseudoscience.


Orgone energy is a term coined by psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich for the "universal life energy" which he claimed to have discovered in published experiments in the late 1930s. Reich claimed that orgone energy was a "life energy" which filled all space, was blue in color, and that certain forms of illness were the consequence of depletion or blockages of the energy within the body. These theories are considered pseudoscience.[1][2][3]

Orgone accumulator.

View attachment 53869

The book and Lessans to me fits a category.

Scientology and the E-Meter.

New Age crystal power is the belief that natural stones and crystals possess unique vibrational energies that can interact with human energy fields to promote physical, emotional, and spiritual healing. Popular in modern spiritual practices, crystals like amethyst, rose quartz, and clear quartz are used to boost energy, reduce stress, and restore balance


In the 70s there was pyramid power. I knew a woman who slept under a pyramid frame. There were clams food stayed fresh longer under a pyramid frame.

Lessans is pseudoscience.

Way back there was a stream of people who believed in the paranormal and similar stuff, all claiming science just does not get it. Or when asked about a demonstration under controlled conditions it was said 'it does not work that way'.

Claims of levitation and telekinesis.
I'm on the borderline of putting you on ignore. You are very knowledgeable, Steve, about many things. I grant you that, but you are failing in this thread and are looking more and more like a playground bully.
 
I am asking participants to please put this subject on hold as it is an emotional issue that I personally cannot overcome. If anyone is interested in his other discoveries, I will be happy to engage in a conversation. PS. this is not just for my benefit. It’s for all of our benefit and worth your time. But the attacks are ruining the chances that this knowledge can break through the dogma. Many discoverers had the same problem and their discoveries were not recognized until years and years later. I hope this doesn’t happen here but unfortunately we are on the same trajectory. 🥲

You tried this same gambit any number of times at FF and I’m sure other boards you’ve been. All it does is to further undermine your reputation. People here are free to talk about whatever they want, including you. If you don’t want to talk about real-time seeing, then don’t. We may wish to talk about it among ourselves.
What is true is true, whatever thread I'm on. I could be on 100 threads and say the same thing. That doesn't make your rebuttals any less wrong.
The above is a passive-aggressive form of attack, assuming what is not in evidence — that your author made a discovery. He didn’t. Nobody except you is emotional. No one here feels threatened by a non-discovery. If he HAD a discovery, we would be cheering him on. He had no knowledge, and we have no dogma. You are insulting us by implying that we have. What always has been asked of you is this: to defend your author’s ideas forthrightly and in good faith. That is exactly what you have never done, because you can’t. There is nothing to defend, no substance.
No, Pood. You are using this thread as gospel, but it isn't.. I have always defended the author's ideas forthrightly and in good faith. What are you blathering about NOW? No substance? You don't have a goddamn clue. :(
if you really wanted to have a productive discussion, long ago you would have met our rebuttals head on. Instead you evade every one of them by falling back on pre-scripted rhetoric. Case in point: you were given a clear way that you personally could test your writer’s ideas on light and sight. How? By merely watching the sun rise in the morning. Have you done this? No. Have you explained why this test is insufficient? No. You simply declaim that it is, and then move on to the next evasion.
I did not simply declaim that it is and then move on to the next. You are twisting and turning to make it appear that way. I have told you over and over that you can't use this example because it only shows that light is arriving from the other side of Earth, not 8.5 minutes later. What is it you don't understand? I am still waiting for proof that dogs and bees can recognize familiar individuals from sight alone. You haven't done that. You simply declaim that the test is sufficient (what test are you talking about that proves this?) and then move on to the next evasion, the very thing you are accusing me of.
If people here do periodically feel irate, it is not because of your author’s non-discovery. It is because of your persistent evasions and refusal to engage in good-faith discussion.
My discussion is in good faith, but because it goes against something you and everyone here have taken for granted as true, I am looked at like a damn fool. But I am not, and if you had known Lessans, you would have a change of heart.
 
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Peacegirl wants to talk about something else besides her writer’s claims about light and sight, which she knows she cannot defend and which moreover have been demonstrated to be both physically and logically impossible.

How about man’s will is not free? We have already devoted endless pages to that.

What about how in the new world young people will run around scantily clad and fall in love with each other’s sex organs, and will get hitched for life with the first person they have sex with? Or how in the new world homosexuality will vanish?

Or we could talk about how we are born again and again even though reincarnation is false
 
Peacegirl wants to talk about something else besides her writer’s claims about light and sight, which she knows she cannot defend and which moreover have been demonstrated to be both physically and logically impossible.
There's no point. In no way does this mean he was wrong in his observations. There is nothing that proves definitively that seeing in delayed time is the only way it could possibly work. Nuff said.
How about man’s will is not free? We have already devoted endless pages to that.
You don't even understand the two-sided equation. You keep talking about modal fallacies and QM, which has nothing to do with the macro world of decision-making.
What about how in the new world young people will run around scantily clad and fall in love with each other’s sex organs, and will get hitched for life with the first person they have sex with? Or how in the new world homosexuality will vanish?
Again, you are ruining it for everyone by making jokes. It has nothing to do with being hitched for life when there will be no marriage contract and therefore no obligation. Do you see how wrong you are AGAIN?
Or we could talk about how we are born again and again even though reincarnation is false
This chapter has nothing to do with reincarnation for the 100th time. You are wrong on all counts.
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CHAPTER TEN: OUR POSTERITY

Although the basic principle has been an infallible guide and miraculous catalyst through the labyrinths of human relations, it cannot assist me here; but it did not help other scientists discover atomic energy, nor was it used to reveal itself. However, that of which it is composed, this perception of undeniable relations that escapes the average eye will take us by the hand and demonstrate, in a manner no one will be able to deny, that there is absolutely nothing to fear in death because we will be born again and again and again. This does not mean what you might think it means because the life you live and are conscious of right now has no relation whatsoever to you and your consciousness in another life. Therefore, I am not speaking of reincarnation or a spiritual world of souls or any other theory, but of the flesh, of a mind and body alive and conscious of existence as you are at this moment. Are you smiling? Can’t you see, once again, Eric Johnson refusing to listen because he was so certain man’s will is free, or Nageli not investigating Mendel’s discovery because the very core was regarded as impossible? Didn’t many of you smile when first hearing that man does not have five senses? I expect you to be skeptical but please give me the benefit of the doubt and deny my discovery after you have studied the relations, not before. I would like to share a conversation I had with my friend regarding my final discovery in the hope of making these difficult principles easier to understand.”

“Boy does that word ‘death’ give me the creeps! I can’t stand the thought that one day I’ll be gone from this earth; I won’t see the sun, the moon, and the stars; I won’t enjoy eating, sleeping, making love. What a horrible thought! And above all, I might not even be here when the Golden Age gets officially launched.”

“Your thinking is typical of the majority of mankind.”

“But a lot of religious people don’t think that way. They believe that when they die, they are going to heaven or some such happy hunting ground and, consequently, have no fear of death whatsoever.”

“Yes, I know that. There are all kinds of explanations about the hereafter, this spiritual world of souls, but I am not interested in words, just the flesh. You are in for quite a pleasant surprise but because man’s mind has been so filled with words such as afterlife, soul, spirit, metempsychosis, reincarnation, heaven, etc., which have been used to explain death — although they have absolutely no meaning whatsoever — we were unable to extract the pure unadulterated mathematical relations that existed when these words were removed. Theologians and other philosophers had an intuition that man was truly immortal, but they had no way of communicating or translating their feelings into language that could not be denied simply because they were completely confused with words and beliefs. It will be proven, conclusively, that there is nothing to fear in death, and when all the facts are in, you will see that there is justice for those who have gone before us. You will gain a better understanding as you read and reread this chapter.”

“This is quite confusing. You just said that I would be born again and again and again, and now you say there will be no connection between me now and me then.”

“I realize that, but before I explain the proof I shall begin by asking you a very important question.
 
I could speculate on the environment Pg grew up in, but that would probably be going too far.

For me it was not until I was in my 30s I began to fully understand how the environment I grew up in affected me. Bad habits I inhered from my father.

Out of line? Again you argue your failures areother people's fault right?

It could not be your lack science and Lessans' pseudoscience. and his conspiracy theories about universities.

Delusions of grandeur and paranoia. Like Trump.

I am familiar with a number of pseudoscience.


Orgone energy is a term coined by psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich for the "universal life energy" which he claimed to have discovered in published experiments in the late 1930s. Reich claimed that orgone energy was a "life energy" which filled all space, was blue in color, and that certain forms of illness were the consequence of depletion or blockages of the energy within the body. These theories are considered pseudoscience.[1][2][3]

Orgone accumulator.

View attachment 53869

The book and Lessans to me fits a category.

Scientology and the E-Meter.

New Age crystal power is the belief that natural stones and crystals possess unique vibrational energies that can interact with human energy fields to promote physical, emotional, and spiritual healing. Popular in modern spiritual practices, crystals like amethyst, rose quartz, and clear quartz are used to boost energy, reduce stress, and restore balance


In the 70s there was pyramid power. I knew a woman who slept under a pyramid frame. There were clams food stayed fresh longer under a pyramid frame.

Lessans is pseudoscience.

Way back there was a stream of people who believed in the paranormal and similar stuff, all claiming science just does not get it. Or when asked about a demonstration under controlled conditions it was said 'it does not work that way'.

Claims of levitation and telekinesis.
I'm on the borderline of putting you on ignore. You are very knowledgeable, Steve, about many things. I grant you that, but you are failing in this thread and are looking more and more like a playground bully.
You do not need any permission to post on your thread, You are in the driver's seat.

You must know how the responses and questions you will go. If you look at other threads you will se it is what the forum in part is about.

I calls it likes I see it. Pseudoscience.

I looked through the book and listened to your claims, argument and alleged proofs. Noe of it m,akes sne.

You say if te Sun is switched on we word see objects on Erath after a dealy but we se te Sun withut delay. There is no physical evdince to dmonstrate that,. Heasr on Erath it canbe testd uysng ordnary teste quipopnt I can get oline.

Responses to visual stimulus are seen by MRI and electrical neural activity. There are no mysteries about vision.

There is nothing in the brain or nerves that is not mapped, there is nothing to support your alternate vision claims.

We looked at te bookm listed to you, and gave you a fair shake.


Yiou raht as Lessans did about academia being out to get people like him nailing him to the cross.


My impression way back at the start was Lessans was self aggrandizing. Equating himself to ancient philosophers.

The nonsense about kids falling in love and sex organs is childish at best. Given what we know now of sex abuse today It makes me wonder to be honest.


Proclaiming the greatest discovery of all time, delusions of grounder.
Professors are out to nail me to the cross, paranoia.

Like Trump. Trump claimed he should have gotten a Noble Peace Prize and claimed Norway conspired to deny him the prize.

I do feel for you and what you may have been exposed to at a young age.

Put me on ignore or not. It will not change anything,.

There is a lot of pseudoscience and other beliefs that have taken hold and persisted. Yday Siulpation Theory appears to be popular. We are in a computer simulation.

That Lessans got no traction is more about Lessans than anything else. Te book is poorly written.
 
Pg
There's no point. In no way does this mean he was wrong in his observations. There is nothing that proves definitively that seeing in delayed time is the only way it could possibly work. Nuff said.

How did he observe his instant vision? It was not an observation, it was a conclusion not based in physics evidence.

To test it I would set up a switchable light source, sensors, instruments and so on. Make measurements.

Publish data.
 
I could speculate on the environment Pg grew up in, but that would probably be going too far.

For me it was not until I was in my 30s I began to fully understand how the environment I grew up in affected me. Bad habits I inhered from my father.

Out of line? Again you argue your failures areother people's fault right?

It could not be your lack science and Lessans' pseudoscience. and his conspiracy theories about universities.

Delusions of grandeur and paranoia. Like Trump.

I am familiar with a number of pseudoscience.


Orgone energy is a term coined by psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich for the "universal life energy" which he claimed to have discovered in published experiments in the late 1930s. Reich claimed that orgone energy was a "life energy" which filled all space, was blue in color, and that certain forms of illness were the consequence of depletion or blockages of the energy within the body. These theories are considered pseudoscience.[1][2][3]

Orgone accumulator.

View attachment 53869

The book and Lessans to me fits a category.
It doesn't. It feels like a slap in the face when you say this.
Scientology is a cult. This has nothing to do with an organization of any kind. It isn't trying to recruit people for some greater cause. The only thing he is demonstrating is that man's will is not free, and when it is confirmed by science, much good will result when these principles are put into practice.
New Age crystal power is the belief that natural stones and crystals possess unique vibrational energies that can interact with human energy fields to promote physical, emotional, and spiritual healing. Popular in modern spiritual practices, crystals like amethyst, rose quartz, and clear quartz are used to boost energy, reduce stress, and restore balance


In the 70s there was pyramid power. I knew a woman who slept under a pyramid frame. There were clams food stayed fresh longer under a pyramid frame.

Lessans is pseudoscience.
It's not pseudoscience. It's science.

Science will have to take the lead in affirming the accuracy of these principles before they can be applied worldwide. The truth will be very easy to convey once it is understood and acknowledged by scientists because it involves undeniable relations such as two plus two equals four, but when people have been taught for centuries that man’s will is free and the eyes are a sense organ, it becomes more difficult to break through these beliefs since the long tenure of preempted authority has confused opinions with facts and dogmatically closed the door to further investigation.
Way back there was a stream of people who believed in the paranormal and similar stuff, all claiming science just does not get it. Or when asked about a demonstration under controlled conditions it was said 'it does not work that way'.

Claims of levitation and telekinesis.
Well you can rest assured that this is not pseudoscience.
I'm on the borderline of putting you on ignore. You are very knowledgeable, Steve, about many things. I grant you that, but you are failing in this thread and are looking more and more like a playground bully.
You do not need any permission to post on your thread, You are in the driver's seat.

You must know how the responses and questions you will go. If you look at other threads you will se it is what the forum in part is about.
I know how the forum is run, and I don't begrudge anyone. It's just unfortunate, not because the people here are not intelligent (they are the type of individuals who have the capacity to understand this knowledge), but because of the naysaying that has taken hold. A lot of assumptions have been made that preclude me from being able to proceed.
I calls it likes I see it. Pseudoscience.

I looked through the book and listened to your claims, argument and alleged proofs. Noe of it m,akes sne.
Because you're not listening. You're skimming. I asked you the very basics. What are the two principles that lead to the discovery? You won't answer. How in the world can I do this book justice if you won't meet me halfway?
You say if te Sun is switched on we word see objects on Erath after a dealy but we se te Sun withut delay. There is no physical evdince to dmonstrate that,. Heasr on Erath it canbe testd uysng ordnary teste quipopnt I can get oline.
If you understood why we would see the Sun turned on before we would see each other, then it wouldn't feel so strange. But you refuse to give him a chance. This man would NEVER have made a claim he wasn't sure of. NEVER!!!!
Responses to visual stimulus are seen by MRI and electrical neural activity. There are no mysteries about vision.
They can map out what is happening between the retina, the optic nerve, and the brain, but they still cannot show with absolute certainty what the brain is doing. Can they map out an image inside the brain? Is it anywhere to be seen?
There is nothing in the brain or nerves that is not mapped, there is nothing to support your alternate vision claims.
Until they can restore vision to the blind by providing artificial impulses that allow a person to have normal sight, there is no absolute proof as to the direction we see.
We looked at te bookm listed to you, and gave you a fair shake.
You have repeated what science claims to be happening. If you think you have given me a fair shake, then scrap this thread. You are not under any obligation to be here.
Yiou raht as Lessans did about academia being out to get people like him nailing him to the cross.
I can only tell you what he went through in his lifetime. It looks like very little has changed. If you don't have an in, or certain credentials, then you're out of luck. I understand why this is necessary today, but many discoveries will never be seen as a consequence. Richard Milton said it better than I could:

Any contribution to knowledge in terms of rational analysis, or resulting from the different perspective of those outside the field in question, is lost to the community. In its most extreme form scientific tabooism closely resembles the behavior of a priestly caste that is perceived to be the holy guardians of the sacred creed, the beliefs that are the object of the community’s worship. Such guardians feel themselves justified by their religious calling and long training in adopting any measures to repel and to discredit any member of the community who profanes the sacred places, words or rituals regarded as untouchable. Perhaps the most worrying aspect of the taboo reaction is that it tends to have a cumulative and permanent discriminatory effect: any idea that is ideologically suspect or counter to the current paradigm is permanently dismissed, and the very fact of its rejection forms the basis of its rejection on all future occasions. It is a little like the court of appeal rejecting the convicted man’s plea of innocence on the grounds that he must be guilty or why else is he in jail? And why else did the police arrest him in the first place? This ‘erring on the side of caution’ means that in the long term the intellectual Devil’s Island where convicted concepts are sent becomes more and more crowded with taboo ideas, all denied to us, and with no possibility of reprieve. We will never know how many tens or hundreds or thousands of important discoveries were thrown in the scrap heap merely because of intolerance and misplaced skepticism.”


My impression way back at the start was Lessans was self aggrandizing. Equating himself to ancient philosophers.
I can't help that he was on par with ancient philosophers. Why are you putting these individuals on such a high pedestal where they are like gods to you? Is this your new religion?
The nonsense about kids falling in love and sex organs is childish at best. Given what we know now of sex abuse today It makes me wonder to be honest.
I cannot deal...don't you see what Pood is doing? He's still using any tactic he can to ruin this knowledge. You would really like this book, but you won't allow yourself to read it. :( Even on a smaller scale, it has helped me tremendously in my life.
Proclaiming the greatest discovery of all time, delusions of grounder.
No, it's not delusions of grandeur. If it can do what he claims it can do, then the word "grandeur" is appropriate, not delusion.
Professors are out to nail me to the cross, paranoia.
Please stop, Steve. I can see what you're doing. You have a preconceived idea (as does everyone here), so anything that is presented is used against him. He was the most unparanoid person that anyone could ever meet. He was very even keeled in every way, I'm trying to share with you who he was, and I was his daughter. I think I knew him better than you. Geeze!!!!!!
Like Trump. Trump claimed he should have gotten a Noble Peace Prize and claimed Norway conspired to deny him the prize.
I never heard Lessans say he deserved a Nobel Prize. :LOL: He wasn't interested in his legacy. He was only interested in passing this knowledge along.
I do feel for you and what you may have been exposed to at a young age.
Don't feel for me. I am doing fine because of what he taught me.
Put me on ignore or not. It will not change anything,.
Just don't go too far with your knocks that are below the belt, and I won't put you on ignore.
There is a lot of pseudoscience and other beliefs that have taken hold and persisted. Yday Siulpation Theory appears to be popular. We are in a computer simulation.

That Lessans got no traction is more about Lessans than anything else. Te book is poorly written.
You can blame me for that. I really don't care. I don't see how you can judge because you have not read the book in its entirety. It's very easy to criticize when you are not the one in the hot seat. Even if the book was written in crayon with no punctuation or perfect syntax, if it changed your life for the better, I don't think you would care about his writing style. You would thank him and be extremely grateful for what you learned.
 
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Peacegirl wants to talk about something else besides her writer’s claims about light and sight, which she knows she cannot defend and which moreover have been demonstrated to be both physically and logically impossible.
There's no point. In no way does this mean he was wrong in his observations.
If they are demonstrated to be both physically and logically impossible, then yes, it pretty much means exactly that.
 
Again, you are ruining it for everyone by making jokes.
So, just to be clear, you are saying that there is some deep and important revelation that will transform the whole of human society; But that it is so fragile and impotent that it can't withstand people joking about it?

Have you not met any humans?

If you want to transform all of humanity - eight billion people - they your approach is gonna need to be able to handle a lot more than just a few jokes.

The big joke here is that you want eight billion people to agree with your dad's half-baked nonsense, and yet these supposedly powerful and insightful ideas have yet to convince eight.
 
Science will have to take the lead in affirming the accuracy of these principles before they can be applied worldwide.
It has. It confirmed that these principles are nonsense. They will never (indeed, can never) be applied anywhere; Reality does not permit it.

I don't think you have a clue what science is. Are you expecting the king of science to issue a proclaimation? Do you want the pope of science to issue an ex-cathedra decree? Perhaps the board of world scientists needs to vote to accept your father's work?

Science has taken the lead, right here in this thread; It has confirmed that these "principles" are nonsense; And your response has been to ignore or denigrate that science, in favour of your emotions and of appeals to the emotions of others.
 
Peacegirl has a martyr’s complex. That is what her father bequeathed her. That is what his “nailed up to the cross” bullshit is all about.

He did not have, and she does not have, the first clue about how reality works. What he had was delusions of grandeur, and an overwhelming desire to be a Great Man of History who overturned centuries of “dogmatic thinking.” She seems to somewhat fancy herself to her father, as John the Baptist was to Jesus. She is urging our repentance to prepare the way for the coming of the Kingdom of the New World.

When she was at FF she made it clear that she was our teacher and we were her students. I think she was taken aback when the students rebelled, jeered and sneered, and pelted their with metaphorical spitballs — a reaction which is surprising given that she had gotten exactly the same reaction at previous message boards. But she never learns.

I think she relishes being opposed. It feeds and amplifies her fantasy that everyone rejects her father’s bullshit because we can’t stand to have our world view challenged. In reality, of course, we reject his bullshit because it is bullshit.
 
Again.

Dogs Remember Faces
Research strongly supports that dogs remember and recognize their human companions.

This is all conjecture. Where is the proof? I gave real examples of dogs not recognizing their owners until they sniffed them. Why are you ignoring this and trusting an article that has no proof of anything?

It's not conjure. Did you see the cited studies, methods explained, results published?

You brush aside anything that contradicts your faith in ideas that have no support, that cannot be justified.
You’re off base. This account has nothing to do with remembering people. It’s obvious dogs remember. Where are the dogs that can recognize their loved companion without other cues? Something concrete. Why are you making a category error? Are you doing this purposely? 🫩 This account certainly can be justified. You are the one that is in denial, not me. Why are you turning your nose up when seeing real live videos I have posted as if they don’t count, but would rather trust an article that doesn’t have one whit of proof? They even used the phrase “supports the idea of” because there is no proof they can hang their hats on.

Without memory there is no recognition.

Memory function enables recognition.

You should know what happens to consciousness when memory function fails.
 
I’ve skimmed over peacegirl’s latest posts. So familiar. She’s been repeating the exact same tropes for many years, in the exact same words. She is always wrong. She learns nothing. It has become a big bore. 🥱
 
Pg
There's no point. In no way does this mean he was wrong in his observations. There is nothing that proves definitively that seeing in delayed time is the only way it could possibly work. Nuff said.

How did he observe his instant vision? It was not an observation, it was a conclusion not based in physics evidence.

To test it I would set up a switchable light source, sensors, instruments and so on. Make measurements.

Publish data.
I can't do anymore than I've already done. Hopefully, people will test this further. This was an observation that you and everyone here is ignoring because you think the claim is ridiculous. But is it? How do we get conditioned to seeing this beauty and ugliness as a real thing when it isn't being sent to our eyes in the light? Do you not get this? Do you not see the hurt involved when someone is judged ugly when no such thing exists? Light does not bring this ugliness to our eyes, so how does it work? What is the mechanism? What is it that causes this conditioning, because that is what it is. You cannot just gloss over it because it's not in the field of astronomy. Sometimes, we learn an alternate explanation that turns out to be true.
 
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