SCOTUS Weasel Words: Facilitate, Effectuate

[Elixir]

Seeking someone to tell me my take is wrong on this bullshit surrounding the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case.
SCOTUS, in a 9-0 ruling, ordered the Shithole Administration to "facilitate" Garcia's return to the US, meaning ... what?
From what I gather from TV's legal eagles, "facilitate" means that they were not allowed to prevent his return, but were not ordered to get him returned.
"Effectuate" (has anyone here EVER used that word?) would have meant "get him back".

The rationale for that word choice was, in my own words, that it is not the Court's place to tell Cheato how to conduct foreign policy, because as everyone knows, foreign policy is the exclusive purview of The President.
Yeah I was taught that, BUT ... WHAT???
It's not the Court's place to order the President to abide by the Nation's laws while conducting his "foreign policy"?
This sounds like an addendum to the get out of jail free card they already gave him. Now, instead of leaving Garcia to the mercies of the thug running El Salvador as an "official act" (for which he is immune), he can just mutter "foreign policy" and get the same effect?

WTF? What happened to "co-equal"? If the Court cannot order the President to abide by the Constitution, who is supposed to do that?
Nobody? Only the legislature?
I'm a little confused here, but I know that at the end of the day it matters not one bit, since Cheato's willingness to ignore the Court whenever he thinks it was wrong, is effectively unlimited right now.
But I'd like to know how breaking our Constitution is allowable if a corrupt executive deems it "foreign policy".

 

[bilby]

"Effectuate" (has anyone here EVER used that word?) would have meant "get him back.

Sounds like someone is unable to bring themselves to say "effect", because it doesn't sound sufficienly pompous or overeducated.

 

[NoHolyCows]

Seeking someone to tell me my take is wrong on this bullshit surrounding the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case.
SCOTUS, in a 9-0 ruling, ordered the Shithole Administration to "facilitate" Garcia's return to the US, meaning ... what?
From what I gather from TV's legal eagles, "facilitate" means that they were not allowed to prevent his return, but were not ordered to get him returned.
"Effectuate" (has anyone here EVER used that word?) would have meant "get him back".

The rationale for that word choice was, in my own words, that it is not the Court's place to tell Cheato how to conduct foreign policy, because as everyone knows, foreign policy is the exclusive purview of The President.
Yeah I was taught that, BUT ... WHAT???
It's not the Court's place to order the President to abide by the Nation's laws while conducting his "foreign policy"?
This sounds like an addendum to the get out of jail free card they already gave him. Now, instead of leaving Garcia to the mercies of the thug running El Salvador as an "official act" (for which he is immune), he can just mutter "foreign policy" and get the same effect?

WTF? What happened to "co-equal"? If the Court cannot order the President to abide by the Constitution, who is supposed to do that?
Nobody? Only the legislature?
I'm a little confused here, but I know that at the end of the day it matters not one bit, since Cheato's willingness to ignore the Court whenever he thinks it was wrong, is effectively unlimited right now.
But I'd like to know how breaking our Constitution is allowable if a corrupt executive deems it "foreign policy".

My wife says to be successful, Judge Xinis must issue an order that defines “facilitate” as requiring the government to take active, good-faith steps to secure Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s release—such as engaging in diplomatic communication, providing travel documents, and coordinating with El Salvadoran authorities. She should avoid the word “effectuate” but use clear language like “affirmative efforts” and “removal of barriers” to demand real action. By framing the order as a faithful execution of the Supreme Court’s ruling—not a challenge to executive power—she can compel compliance while staying within constitutional bounds.

NHC

 

[Elixir]

By framing the order as a faithful execution of the Supreme Court’s ruling—not a challenge to executive power—she can compel compliance while staying within constitutional bounds.

Compel??
Wut?
How?
The one thing that would make the thug in El Salvador (who is raking in the US tax dollars) send Garcia back, would be if Trump told him to.
Trump himself has admitted as much, in plain 4th grader language saying "I don't wanna and I'm not gonna and YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!".
Is the judge going to order Trump to make a call to to foreign leader and say X, Y and Z, or have him arrested?
No, the only "compelling" that Trump is subject to, is if somehow the Republican legislature impeaches the fucker again, then convicts him in the Senate, removing him from office. Not gonna happen this week, for sure. Or next week or next year.

 

[ZiprHead]

Where is the money being paid to El Salvador coming from? Congress is supposed to decide from where and to who government money goes, not the president.

 

[Jarhyn]

Where is the money being paid to El Salvador coming from? Congress is supposed to decide from where and to who government money goes, not the president.

To be fair, it might be coming largely from the proceeds of slave labor.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Where is the money being paid to El Salvador coming from? Congress is supposed to decide from where and to who government money goes, not the president.

To be fair, it might be coming largely from the proceeds of slave labor.

I would venture to guess Homeland Security has funds for detaining immigrants that does not specify the US as the only country they can be detained in.

 

[Jarhyn]

Where is the money being paid to El Salvador coming from? Congress is supposed to decide from where and to who government money goes, not the president.

To be fair, it might be coming largely from the proceeds of slave labor.

I would venture to guess Homeland Security has funds for detaining immigrants that does not specify the US as the only country they can be detained in.

Well, one of the reasons Nazis ran camps in the first place was for concentrated slave labor. The reason death camps started was because the slave camps didn't need any more slaves.

"Arbeit macht frei"

For profit prisons are subsidized by the state, but they still turn a profit in slave labor.

And all the better for profits when conditions can be so much worse as they are in El Salvador, with a steady stream of new bodies to replace the dead ones.

It starts to make you wonder why fascism requires such a high focus on birth and such a low focus afterwards.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Maybe they were trying to create a new INXS song.