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"Significant" human remains found at Irish Catholic Orphanage

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In the septic tank no less.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/b...on-secours-catholic-orphanage-ireland-n728656

The bones indicated that they were from children ranging from a few weeks old to 3 years old. They don't yet know how many individuals - just a septic tank full of children's bones.

But please Pope Francis tell us how the Church is pro-life. Utterly revolting. Every abortion debate should start with this as exhibit A.

SLD
 
In the septic tank no less.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/b...on-secours-catholic-orphanage-ireland-n728656

The bones indicated that they were from children ranging from a few weeks old to 3 years old. They don't yet know how many individuals - just a septic tank full of children's bones.

But please Pope Francis tell us how the Church is pro-life. Utterly revolting. Every abortion debate should start with this as exhibit A.

SLD

I'm not sure I see the connection to abortion. Unless, these children were murdered? Likely, they were miscarriages and early childhood deaths, no? The death certificates existed, they were just buried in mass graves? I don't understand exactly what's going on, or is that precisely the issue?
 
In the septic tank no less.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/b...on-secours-catholic-orphanage-ireland-n728656

The bones indicated that they were from children ranging from a few weeks old to 3 years old. They don't yet know how many individuals - just a septic tank full of children's bones.

But please Pope Francis tell us how the Church is pro-life. Utterly revolting. Every abortion debate should start with this as exhibit A.

SLD

I'm not sure I see the connection to abortion. Unless, these children were murdered? Likely, they were miscarriages and early childhood deaths, no? The death certificates existed, they were just buried in mass graves? I don't understand exactly what's going on, or is that precisely the issue?

It's connected to the abortion issue, not abortion, itself.

Abortion has always been a bad choice among other bad choice. No one in the history of the world has ever gotten pregnant because they enjoyed an abortion. It doesn't take much imagination to create a mental image of life at this Home for Mothers and Babies. Even if we sweeten the picture by adding a cadre of benevolent and caring nuns, it was a time of high infant mortality, in the best of situations. Given the documented practices of the Irish Church and orphan girls, it's not likely there was a lot of benevolence or caring. Maternal mortality would also be high, but the article does not mention any other graves on the premises.

It does give an interesting window into a time when abortion, or to put it better, "right to abortion," wasn't an issue. Today's fight over abortion centers on a presumed sacredness of life, even to the point of some people insisting aborted babies be given a funeral and burial. Nothing of that sort is seen at this place. At this time, the Irish Church would be operating under the theology of pre-VaticanII times, which would include 'limbo", as the destination of unbaptized infants, those that died before the rite could be performed. It's also unlikely that a septic tank, cistern, or any other "underground structure that appears to have been "related to the treatment/containment of sewage," would qualify as "consecrated ground,"a necessary condition for proper Catholic burial.

After VaticanII, limbo was de-emphasized and now it's treated something like an old superstition that has been abandoned in modern times. Whether this would factor into whether a bunch of Irish Nuns and priests would handle the bodies of dead infants is difficult to say. It's unlikely any of the women who worked there are still alive, but it's certain some of the mothers who were sent there, have survived to this day. I'm sure some of them will come forward in the coming days and bring us more information.
 
In the septic tank no less.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/b...on-secours-catholic-orphanage-ireland-n728656

The bones indicated that they were from children ranging from a few weeks old to 3 years old. They don't yet know how many individuals - just a septic tank full of children's bones.

But please Pope Francis tell us how the Church is pro-life. Utterly revolting. Every abortion debate should start with this as exhibit A.

SLD

I'm not sure I see the connection to abortion. Unless, these children were murdered? Likely, they were miscarriages and early childhood deaths, no? The death certificates existed, they were just buried in mass graves? I don't understand exactly what's going on, or is that precisely the issue?

I don't see the connection either. Strange OP.
 
I'm not sure I see the connection to abortion. Unless, these children were murdered? Likely, they were miscarriages and early childhood deaths, no? The death certificates existed, they were just buried in mass graves? I don't understand exactly what's going on, or is that precisely the issue?

I don't see the connection either. Strange OP.

Obviously those remains were treated with the same reverence that should be conferred upon all that The Church holds dear.
 
I'm not sure I see the connection to abortion. Unless, these children were murdered? Likely, they were miscarriages and early childhood deaths, no? The death certificates existed, they were just buried in mass graves? I don't understand exactly what's going on, or is that precisely the issue?

I don't see the connection either. Strange OP.

Maybe this week end, someone will come by and stick a couple hundred little white crosses by the road.
 
I'm not sure I see the connection to abortion. Unless, these children were murdered? Likely, they were miscarriages and early childhood deaths, no? The death certificates existed, they were just buried in mass graves? I don't understand exactly what's going on, or is that precisely the issue?

I don't see the connection either. Strange OP.

According to the Catholic church, and indeed all of those supposed "pro-life" assholes, fetal life is sacred and to be treated as if fully formed human with the rights associated with full borne humans. But they treat these children, and their mothers, like nothing but shit, literally shit. Putting them in a septic tank.

Nor was this orphanage operating in a time of high infant mortality which begs the question of how these children died, and why would they attempt to cover it up by dumping them in the septic tank. I'm not saying they were murdered, but how many died due to basic neglect and possibly abuse? Given the history of these places it would hardly be surprising.

Given that history, I just find it highly ironic that anti-abortion rights fucktards call themselves pro-life. I say they've lost the moral standing to call themselves pro life when they dispose of children in septic tanks regardless of how they died.

SLD
 
Well, if there's one thing you can learn from the Book of Joshua, it's that God may command you to kill children. And you better not pussy out of it.
 
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