SUSPECT INVOLVED IN CIVIC CENTER STANDOFF SURRENDERS TO SAN FRANCISCO POLICE

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Saturday, September 24, 2016
SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- San Francisco police have reported the gunman involved in an hours-long standoff in the Civic Center Plaza has surrendered to police.

The incident was first reported by San Francisco Fire Department officials on Twitter around 12:25 p.m.

Police and fire officials initially evacuated the plaza and asked people to avoid the area. Police say the armed man called police just before noon and was threatening to use it.

http://abc7news.com/news/suspect-involved-in-civic-center-standoff-surrenders-to-sf-police-/1525268/

This story is from Sept 24th, but I don't remember seeing it in the forum.

People are talking about brandishing weapons by someone who was being non-violent and had a traumatic brain injury in another thread, but this guy seems to have done quite a bit worse. He was threatening to use it on police and other people. Somehow, not only did he make it out alive, but he also had a negotiator. I am perplexed.

 

[RavenSky]

"He's using words that he may want to end his life or take out other people and we don't want that to happen," Manfredi said.

Police say they are in no hurry to end the standoff and it could continue for several hours.

It is amazing how differently police handle a man they know for a fact has a gun and is threatening to use it vs men who may or may not be armed and are not making threats.

 

[Deepak]

It's because he wasn't wearing a shirt, that's the difference, right? Right?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Saturday, September 24, 2016
SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- San Francisco police have reported the gunman involved in an hours-long standoff in the Civic Center Plaza has surrendered to police.

The incident was first reported by San Francisco Fire Department officials on Twitter around 12:25 p.m.

Police and fire officials initially evacuated the plaza and asked people to avoid the area. Police say the armed man called police just before noon and was threatening to use it.

http://abc7news.com/news/suspect-involved-in-civic-center-standoff-surrenders-to-sf-police-/1525268/

This story is from Sept 24th, but I don't remember seeing it in the forum.

People are talking about brandishing weapons by someone who was being non-violent and had a traumatic brain injury in another thread, but this guy seems to have done quite a bit worse. He was threatening to use it on police and other people. Somehow, not only did he make it out alive, but he also had a negotiator. I am perplexed.

I will note that San Francisco has negotiators. Smaller areas probably have much less infrastructure to use within their Police department.

It sure the hell sticks out though. Though, 'two by two, hands of blue'? That guy might be fucked!

Had Dylan Roof shot up a white Baptist Church and he was black, I have a hard time thinking his arrest would have been so laid back.

My advice to black people is, however, to just not get upset over it. Any sort of comment on Twitter or act of sitting down or looking a bit perturbed... it just won't be taken well by a majority of white males.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It's because he wasn't wearing a shirt, that's the difference, right? Right?

Wasn't there a naked guy that got killed before? Maybe you have to wear pants but no shirt?

 

[Terrell]

Police say they are in no hurry to end the standoff and it could continue for several hours.

It is amazing how differently police handle a man they know for a fact has a gun and is threatening to use it vs men who may or may not be armed and are not making threats.

Melanin. Cliven Bundy's followers pointed rifles at federal law enforcement and no one got shot.

It's because he wasn't wearing a shirt, that's the difference, right? Right?

Wasn't there a naked guy that got killed before? Maybe you have to wear pants but no shirt?

The cops must have thought his dick was a gun.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

That's weird. Is there some sort of physical characteristic of that guy which made the police act in a professional and responsible manner towards him instead of just gunning him down? I can't see one.

 

[RavenSky]

That's weird. Is there some sort of physical characteristic of that guy which made the police act in a professional and responsible manner towards him instead of just gunning him down? I can't see one.

Maybe because he politely called them up in advance and alerted them he intended to gun them down, it allowed them to take control of their fears before they had an "oops finger-on-trigger" moment.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

That's weird. Is there some sort of physical characteristic of that guy which made the police act in a professional and responsible manner towards him instead of just gunning him down? I can't see one.

Maybe because he politely called them up in advance and alerted them he intended to gun them down, it allowed them to take control of their fears before they had an "oops finger-on-trigger" moment.

See - manners. They matter. It only takes a little bit of time and effort to make a courtesy phone call and the appreciation you receive from doing it makes all the difference.

 

[Valjean]

Perhaps police behave better when they're in the spotlight.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Perhaps police behave better when they're in the spotlight.

Seems true, hence no target practice while on camera.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

If they want target practice, they will turn cameras off, turn in a way that cameras cant show what is going on, or take cameras from people.