• Welcome to the Internet Infidels Discussion Board.

Ted Cruz's Religious Advisors

Cheerful Charlie

Contributor
Joined
Nov 10, 2005
Messages
9,357
Location
Houston, Texas
Basic Beliefs
Strong Atheist
Scary, crazy people with crazy and scary ideas.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/ted-cruz-religion-adviser_b_9729606.html

In early March, the Cruz for President campaign announced the formation of an official Religious Liberty Advisory Council. One of the members of Cruz’ advisory council, Bishop Harry Jackson, appears to have the official power, through his participation in a major prophetic organization associated with the radical New Apostolic Reformation movement, to add new teachings to the Bible — in a similar manner as Mormon prophet Joseph Smith’s discovery of scripture that comprises the Book of Mormon which, for the Church of the Latter Day Saints, augments and completes the Bible.

Harry Jackson has been a longtime member of a group called the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders that began in 1999 under the initiative of Cindy Jacobs, who then invited C. Peter Wagner to preside over the group. In 2008, Wagner officially passed leadership of ACPE on to Jacobs (1), with whom Harry Jackson works closely — such as in a 2007 effort to block the Hate Crimes Bill.




-----

Yes, that's right. If the Bible does not say what you wish, then have your pet prophet add what you want to the Bible. Sure the USA needs an official prophet who takes his prophecies straight from God himself!

Religious insanity of the ripest odor! Just when you think it can't get worse, it does.
 
I've said it before and I will say it again now - Ted Cruz is the scariest, craziest person we have ever had this close to the Presidency. I will take Trump over Cruz any day.

And don't assume Kasich is the "sane" one of the three. He's almost as bad as Cruz. He just less open about it.
 
Politically, that is scary. But, as for religious thought, I don't see anything new. That is just what religions do and is the reason we constantly see new sects emerging from older sects. Even the likely most conservative faith that is slow to change, Catholicism, is constantly finding new interpretations of the scripture so that it says what they want it to say.
 
Its a lot more disturbing to be taking your cue from some self-elected prophet than a mere astrologer. Come back Nancy Reagan, all is forgiven!

When you start following the links in this article to more about these people it gets more astounding.

Still, it would be entertaining to see Ted Cruz sacrificing a sheep in the Rose Garden.
 
The bias of the media is so blatant.

Obama was savaged in the media for months over much less than this, but Cruz? Cruz can pall around with people calling for the execution of homosexuals and pay no price for doing so.
 
The bias of the media is so blatant.

Obama was savaged in the media for months over much less than this, but Cruz? Cruz can pall around with people calling for the execution of homosexuals and pay no price for doing so.

I'm sorry, did you say something about Trump? No? Never mind then, I'll just flip around the channels until I see something about Trump.
 
Jeremiah Wright, Jeremiah Wright, Jeremiah Wright

But nothing on the New Apostalic reform, Seven Mountains movement, Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders. et al.
 
Yeah, remember the good old days when most top Republicans felt it necessary to reject the support of religious crazies, like when McCain rejected John C. Hagee.
 
You know, I was worried about living in a world where President Carson leads the USA, because he gave those YEC fundie vibes. Then Carson dropped out. And now this.

I'd bet on a Hillary nomination and win (against Trump, lol), but the fact that religious fundamentalists get this close to presidency is troubling. Or maybe I'm too sensitive to the mere possibility. A possible president Romney used to scare me too.
 
You know, I was worried about living in a world where President Carson leads the USA, because he gave those YEC fundie vibes. Then Carson dropped out. And now this.

I'd bet on a Hillary nomination and win (against Trump, lol), but the fact that religious fundamentalists get this close to presidency is troubling. Or maybe I'm too sensitive to the mere possibility. A possible president Romney used to scare me too.

That is an issue when the country really only has two choices and one of those choices is batshit insane. People like a change from time to time and when that change involves having a screaming maniac drive you off a cliff because you got out of the other car due to some minor issues with its driver, the fact that the GOP is going to win sometimes is really fucking scary. Like electing an idiot who'll start a bunch of wars for no reason type of scary.
 
One then naturally wonders how many GOP Senators And Representitives have truck with these radical idiots. One who did was Sarah Palin.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/martyrdom-and-dominion-jim-garlows-future-conference
---
The themes of imminent martyrdom and eventual dominion dominated the four-day conference, in which 56 speakers gave what added up to more than 24 hours of TED-style speeches.
The event was heavily tinged with “seven mountains” dominionism, the idea that Christians are called by God to be leaders of or to wield dominant influence over the seven main areas, or “mountains,” of culture — not only religion and family, but also government, business, education, media and entertainment.
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...arlows-future-conference#sthash.jbs8b1gA.dpuf


Garlow has especially close ties with former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich, to whom he gave partial credit for inspiring the conference. Gingrich submitted a video address to the conference, as did two current Republican members of Congress, Rep. Jody Hice of Georgia and Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma. - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...arlows-future-conference#sthash.jbs8b1gA.dpuf
 
Last night (4/22) MSNBC ran two of Cruz's recent ads on the North Carolina Bathroom Crisis -- taking a supportive stand on the laws because by definition, that's anti-Trump. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Trump is Right! Sane! Reasonable! on this one, isolated issue. They're both (Cruz/Trump) clearly nightmare choices for chief exec; if either one gets in, fasten your seat belts and if you're eighteen, get your mideast desert combat gear. The Cruz ads were so pathetically slanted toward the paranoid delusional folks. I hope the Republicans pay big, and continue to pay big, for the delusions they've perpetuated in their base. Frightful mess.
 
Last night (4/22) MSNBC ran two of Cruz's recent ads on the North Carolina Bathroom Crisis -- taking a supportive stand on the laws because by definition, that's anti-Trump. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Trump is Right! Sane! Reasonable! on this one, isolated issue. They're both (Cruz/Trump) clearly nightmare choices for chief exec; if either one gets in, fasten your seat belts and if you're eighteen, get your mideast desert combat gear. The Cruz ads were so pathetically slanted toward the paranoid delusional folks. I hope the Republicans pay big, and continue to pay big, for the delusions they've perpetuated in their base. Frightful mess.

It is those rare glimpses at a semi-sane Trump that makes me think that if, in the nightmare scenario a Republican won the general election, I would actually prefer Trump.

Both he and his new campaign manager recently hinted that his campaign persona is for purposes of playing to the Republican base, and that he is much more measured behind the scenes.

Don't get me wrong, the man is still a bombastic, egotistical sexist with little grasp of national or international politics beyond what he thinks will be good for his own businesses or ego...

He would still be better than the Dominionist or the Fundamentalist.

But let's not let it go there at all.
 
Scary, crazy people with crazy and scary ideas.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/ted-cruz-religion-adviser_b_9729606.html

In early March, the Cruz for President campaign announced the formation of an official Religious Liberty Advisory Council. One of the members of Cruz’ advisory council, Bishop Harry Jackson, appears to have the official power, through his participation in a major prophetic organization associated with the radical New Apostolic Reformation movement, to add new teachings to the Bible — in a similar manner as Mormon prophet Joseph Smith’s discovery of scripture that comprises the Book of Mormon which, for the Church of the Latter Day Saints, augments and completes the Bible.

Harry Jackson has been a longtime member of a group called the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders that began in 1999 under the initiative of Cindy Jacobs, who then invited C. Peter Wagner to preside over the group. In 2008, Wagner officially passed leadership of ACPE on to Jacobs (1), with whom Harry Jackson works closely — such as in a 2007 effort to block the Hate Crimes Bill.




-----

Yes, that's right. If the Bible does not say what you wish, then have your pet prophet add what you want to the Bible. Sure the USA needs an official prophet who takes his prophecies straight from God himself!

Religious insanity of the ripest odor! Just when you think it can't get worse, it does.
HaHa! I'm guessing Sweetwater is not one of their favorite movies. It's January Jones vs. the Prophet. Need I say who triumphs.
 
Last night (4/22) MSNBC ran two of Cruz's recent ads on the North Carolina Bathroom Crisis -- taking a supportive stand on the laws because by definition, that's anti-Trump. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Trump is Right! Sane! Reasonable! on this one, isolated issue. They're both (Cruz/Trump) clearly nightmare choices for chief exec; if either one gets in, fasten your seat belts and if you're eighteen, get your mideast desert combat gear. The Cruz ads were so pathetically slanted toward the paranoid delusional folks. I hope the Republicans pay big, and continue to pay big, for the delusions they've perpetuated in their base. Frightful mess.

It is those rare glimpses at a semi-sane Trump that makes me think that if, in the nightmare scenario a Republican won the general election, I would actually prefer Trump.

Both he and his new campaign manager recently hinted that his campaign persona is for purposes of playing to the Republican base, and that he is much more measured behind the scenes.

Don't get me wrong, the man is still a bombastic, egotistical sexist with little grasp of national or international politics beyond what he thinks will be good for his own businesses or ego...

He would still be better than the Dominionist or the Fundamentalist.

But let's not let it go there at all.

Of course they are saying that.

They would be saying that regardless of whether or not it's true, because that's what they have to say if they want any hope of winning in the general election.
 
More investigation into Dominist religio-politics, Cruz etc.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/cruz-super-pac-head-promotes-biblical-slavery-non-christians

[h=1]Cruz Super PAC Head Promotes 'Biblical' Slavery for Non-Christians[/h]
Back in 2011, an open letter to Dr. Laura Schlessinger (concerning her radio show statement that, per Leviticus 18:22, homosexuality was an "abomination") began, "Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law," then popped the question,
Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?​
For David Barton, Cruz' super PAC head (and the top evangelical power broker behind Cruz by one media account), this is no joke. It's a serious question for which Barton's website offers a serious, bible-based answer—an American may enslave both Mexicans and Canadians, but only if they're pagans.
 
More investigation into Dominist religio-politics, Cruz etc.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/cruz-super-pac-head-promotes-biblical-slavery-non-christians

Cruz Super PAC Head Promotes 'Biblical' Slavery for Non-Christians


Back in 2011, an open letter to Dr. Laura Schlessinger (concerning her radio show statement that, per Leviticus 18:22, homosexuality was an "abomination") began, "Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law," then popped the question,
Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?​
For David Barton, Cruz' super PAC head (and the top evangelical power broker behind Cruz by one media account), this is no joke. It's a serious question for which Barton's website offers a serious, bible-based answer—an American may enslave both Mexicans and Canadians, but only if they're pagans.
The linked text is full of fail but it absolutely does not say what the alternet author claims. It does go on about biblical vs. unbiblical slavery, but does not say we should have even biblical slavery today; in fact, it approves of efforts to end slavery and trots out the otherwise illogical argument that god condoned slavery in the Bible only because it was a widespread practice at the time.
 
Back
Top Bottom