A girlThat's not what I see going on here.Would be great if we’d quit telling young people that there is something wrong with them that needs to be fixed.
Young people deciding for themselves that there's something wrong with them is quite different. That happens all too often.
The problem I have with this is the premise that the young people are competent to decide what to do. I don't think that they are, as a group. That's why we have concepts like "age of consent" and such. To protect young people from themselves, very largely, and also from people who would influence them to their own ends as well.
Tom
Forcing a transgender boy
It is 'lunatic' only if you have complete faith in gender ideology. Not all of us are believers.to go through female puberty, when there are medical alternatives, is a lunatic way to treat a kid.
No, it will not cause her to kill herself. The spectre of suicide is an ever-present fire-and-brimstone talking point of gender ideologists, but the gender ideologists simply state their assertion as if it were fact, and neglect to mention that pre and post-transition trans people have no difference in suicide rates.Telling a boy that you won't allow him to do anything at all to reverse the effects of female puberty until he has completely transformed into an adult woman is just going to cause him to kill himself. This is just a scientific fact.
The American Academy of Pediatrics also condones the mutilation of the genitals of baby boys. It is pro-mutilation. I am not impressed by their recommendations.There is a reason why the American Academy of Pediatrics
Your hypocrisy is stunning. You yourself have said you do not think youth should have surgeries, yet you did not speak in favour of the surgery-blocking.I find it stunning the terrible faith that the fascist right applies to the issues claiming that people are trying to force irreversible procedures on kids.
As usual, that's the exact opposite of the truth. Boys who have been on puberty blockers often don't have enough material for butchers to fashion their pre-pubescent penises into pseudovaginas.To look at such tactics is concern trolling in the most charitable light: the law bans BLOCKERS!
These laws guarantee that people will need to "butcher" their body to get it to even a semblance of what they wish to see.
Blockers, the only way to even possibly avoid surgical interventions, allow those who wish to transition the power to do so without closing a door.
Jesus Christ I had hoped that pedophile had crawled under a Canadian rock and died.
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Really, their goal is to force kids into growing up looking like gender stereotypes which they hate.By the way, I want to point something out, here. The same group of people are making two conflicting arguments:
A) they argue that they should not be criticized for misgendering a transgender woman that has a masculine-sounding voice, a masculine-looking height, and a masculine-looking bone-structure, and they claim that it is ridiculous and unfair that they should be expected to validate such a person as a woman.B) they also claim that parents that help their children receive gender-affirming care during puberty, thereby giving them a chance at living normal lives, should be treated as criminals, and they are defending laws that would have the pediatricians that help them branded as felons.
Notice that these are the same exact people. Stop pretending that they are not the vicious punks they are.
Ridiculous and unfair and immoral that you should bully people into uttering things they do not believe, certainly. But that doesn't stop the demands from the gender ideologues.By the way, I want to point something out, here. The same group of people are making two conflicting arguments:
A) they argue that they should not be criticized for misgendering a transgender woman that has a masculine-sounding voice, a masculine-looking height, and a masculine-looking bone-structure, and they claim that it is ridiculous and unfair that they should be expected to validate such a person as a woman.
Sex is not gender, so why is medically [removed] the bodies of children 'gender affirming'?B) they also claim that parents that help their children receive gender-affirming care during puberty,
You believe there is a conflict between the two positions. There is none.thereby giving them a chance at living normal lives, should be treated as criminals, and they are defending laws that would have the pediatricians that help them branded as felons.
Notice that these are the same exact people. Stop pretending that they are not the vicious punks they are.
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Except they're the ones saying there's something that needs to be fixed. Your argument is a strawman.Would be great if we’d quit telling young people that there is something wrong with them that needs to be fixed.
Puberty blockers are not irreversible. Living as the other gender is not irreversible. That's all most people want for the under 18 crowd.The issue is about family or social pressure on children to make irreversible life decisions before maturity. Just because a girl plays with trucks doesn't mean she's was born in the wrong body. It's just so curious that there's this rush to get kids cut up and on hormones before age 18.
The proper comparison is between those allowed to transition and those blocked from it.No, it will not cause her to kill herself. The spectre of suicide is an ever-present fire-and-brimstone talking point of gender ideologists, but the gender ideologists simply state their assertion as if it were fact, and neglect to mention that pre and post-transition trans people have no difference in suicide rates.
Yes. It is actually unusual for doctors to prescribe anything stronger than puberty blockers, but in cases where they do, the differences is usually the patient and not the doctor. If a patient prescribes full HRT to a 14 year old, then the reality behind that is often a young transgender person that has been seriously raising hell and making noise in order to get it. If doctors prescribe full HRT to a minor, then it is usually because it is the only way the kid will stop perseverating on it long enough to learn their algebra.Puberty blockers are not irreversible. Living as the other gender is not irreversible. That's all most people want for the under 18 crowd.The issue is about family or social pressure on children to make irreversible life decisions before maturity. Just because a girl plays with trucks doesn't mean she's was born in the wrong body. It's just so curious that there's this rush to get kids cut up and on hormones before age 18.
Yes. It is actually unusual for doctors to prescribe anything stronger than puberty blockers, but in cases where they do, the differences is usually the patient and not the doctor. If a patient prescribes full HRT to a 14 year old, then the reality behind that is often a young transgender person that has been seriously raising hell and making noise in order to get it. If doctors prescribe full HRT to a minor, then it is usually because it is the only way the kid will stop perseverating on it long enough to learn their algebra.
Transgender kids actually do tend to suffer in their grades if not treated early, though. This a serious problem because it can be harder for many of them to establish good careers later.Yes. It is actually unusual for doctors to prescribe anything stronger than puberty blockers, but in cases where they do, the differences is usually the patient and not the doctor. If a patient prescribes full HRT to a 14 year old, then the reality behind that is often a young transgender person that has been seriously raising hell and making noise in order to get it. If doctors prescribe full HRT to a minor, then it is usually because it is the only way the kid will stop perseverating on it long enough to learn their algebra.
… that doesn’t seem like a terribly solid argument for it…