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The Best Underground Rappers You Aren't Listening To

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecc5CIACMVY&list=PLNwzoXCPqiQFJctqXLa4dkP9dRFPfXqu9[/YOUTUBE]

This one is worth a listen if you can get ahold of the album. Guess he is too broke to allow it all on Youtube idk. It streams free somewhere and it is meaningful at least.
 
To see if rap is all about rhythm to you - just listen to every track acapella first. I have uncounted acapella stuff that I used for mixing. Sometimes it makes its way into my general music's population and I don't enjoy it. Even really good rappers with actual rhythm don't sound good to me acapella. So I guess it is the rhythm for me.

Freestylers are pathetic. Aren't they? God Bless the doughy little people doing it to express themselves, but good God they are terrible. I know of very few that have impressed me. Lil Flip was Okay. Eminem is astounding, but he can afford speech therapy, and he probably has some form of mental illness that causes people to think and express themselves in rhyme naturally. Those exist. Look at Eminem. There is something wrong with him. That is easy to see. The drugs probably hindered him. He could probably be the best of all times, if not for the drugs. Instead, the drugs were played up to be his Popeye spinach power. Now you have suburban heroin addicts jamming his shit since 93, or whenever, but that is just how hip hop goes.

One thing that always surprises me is when I listen to live hip-hop. Guess I've only seen a small number of shows and listened to a small number of live albums, but a lot of the tight, nice-sounding albums that I've heard live don't seem to translate from their recordings too well.

OTOH, when I listen to live musicians who are schooled with vocals or real instruments, they always seem to blow me away.

So yea, maybe there is something to hip-hop being about churning out bangers to play in clubs.
 
Right? They can't reproduce the sounds live because they aren't real musicians LOL. Those stupid rappers lately... they just talk over a sick beat and call it artistic. Rap seems to be all production lately. And remixes into remixes into remixes. The most appealing acts are the most controversial. Unlike satanic black metal metal, the controversiality is world-affecting when it comes to rap. People learn the lyrics, repeat them - BAM you have another prison inmate, and some traumatized victims of said inmate. Repetition man. Plus the videos have a lot of flashing. Just perfect for screwing up a mind.

Rap used to be amazing. Remember King of Rock? That was the first cassette tape I ever bought. My Dad loaded me down with metal records, so when tapes became popular - my first purchase was a rebellious one. From there I got heavily into the Beastie Boys. I fell out of rap as a main like, around the time NWA and stuff like that started poisoning minds. Saw it happening in slow motion back then. Now they have hit warp speed.

The artists you mentioned are visceral lyricists. Some with nearly supernatural talent for writing and rapping. But yeah, they are VERY bad live. I can't handle rap shows. Last rap show I saw was The Anti-Pop-Consortium, somewhere in Virginia. Not a bad show. Good energy and people. Only thing I like about modern rap is solidarity, and pointing out class instead of race. You don't hear a lot of racism in rap. Not even Gangstafied rap. There were no black or white people at that show. Just poor people smoking blunts and bobbing their heads. Pretty neat, but Good God they could not sing, rap or even address the crowd clearly, or with proper tone.

Now I will say this... when people are in jail... they get bored. They start tapping things and bumping their knees under tables. Get a whole pod of people doing that, and listen to a stir crazy dude start rapping. That is something to behold sometimes. Usually it is excruciating but people can surprise you. This one guy was pretty amazing. We got him a little myspace, set him up some virtual dj beats and let him go, when he got out on parole or whatever. Turned out to be an egomaniac with 8 kids and a crack habit, but dang he had genuine flow. Best material I ever heard in this life was in jail. Best rapper I've known personally is currently in jail AGAIN, where his favorite genre of music convinced him he belongs?

I don't really mind that modern rap is completely synthetic. Most things in my life are. I just hate the messages in most modern rap. Hopefully things will move past that, because in hip hop I find a certain exciting element that I can't find in other music. Rap is one of the best types of music. Top 3 for me. It actually hits me physically. It gets me speeding tickets. Very powerful stuff rap is. Only natural that it would be used to do what it is doing to poor people. Only natural to formally address this reality eventually as well, wouldn't you say? Right now the problem is still in the joke phase. You know how truth seeps into things. Eventually the rap industry will be under heavy scrutiny and some truths will come out. You probably know some of the little truths about hip hop I'm talking about. The surface agendas and whatnot. Plus the actual plan. Here I go with "the plan", again. I'll stop here lol
 
Right? They can't reproduce the sounds live because they aren't real musicians LOL. Those stupid rappers lately... they just talk over a sick beat and call it artistic. Rap seems to be all production lately. And remixes into remixes into remixes. The most appealing acts are the most controversial. Unlike satanic black metal metal, the controversiality is world-affecting when it comes to rap. People learn the lyrics, repeat them - BAM you have another prison inmate, and some traumatized victims of said inmate. Repetition man. Plus the videos have a lot of flashing. Just perfect for screwing up a mind.

Rap used to be amazing. Remember King of Rock? That was the first cassette tape I ever bought. My Dad loaded me down with metal records, so when tapes became popular - my first purchase was a rebellious one. From there I got heavily into the Beastie Boys. I fell out of rap as a main like, around the time NWA and stuff like that started poisoning minds. Saw it happening in slow motion back then. Now they have hit warp speed.

The artists you mentioned are visceral lyricists. Some with nearly supernatural talent for writing and rapping. But yeah, they are VERY bad live. I can't handle rap shows. Last rap show I saw was The Anti-Pop-Consortium, somewhere in Virginia. Not a bad show. Good energy and people. Only thing I like about modern rap is solidarity, and pointing out class instead of race. You don't hear a lot of racism in rap. Not even Gangstafied rap. There were no black or white people at that show. Just poor people smoking blunts and bobbing their heads. Pretty neat, but Good God they could not sing, rap or even address the crowd clearly, or with proper tone.

Now I will say this... when people are in jail... they get bored. They start tapping things and bumping their knees under tables. Get a whole pod of people doing that, and listen to a stir crazy dude start rapping. That is something to behold sometimes. Usually it is excruciating but people can surprise you. This one guy was pretty amazing. We got him a little myspace, set him up some virtual dj beats and let him go, when he got out on parole or whatever. Turned out to be an egomaniac with 8 kids and a crack habit, but dang he had genuine flow. Best material I ever heard in this life was in jail. Best rapper I've known personally is currently in jail AGAIN, where his favorite genre of music convinced him he belongs?

I don't really mind that modern rap is completely synthetic. Most things in my life are. I just hate the messages in most modern rap. Hopefully things will move past that, because in hip hop I find a certain exciting element that I can't find in other music. Rap is one of the best types of music. Top 3 for me. It actually hits me physically. It gets me speeding tickets. Very powerful stuff rap is. Only natural that it would be used to do what it is doing to poor people. Only natural to formally address this reality eventually as well, wouldn't you say? Right now the problem is still in the joke phase. You know how truth seeps into things. Eventually the rap industry will be under heavy scrutiny and some truths will come out. You probably know some of the little truths about hip hop I'm talking about. The surface agendas and whatnot. Plus the actual plan. Here I go with "the plan", again. I'll stop here lol

I hate this attitude. First off, you've got to skim off popular music. Popular music is made for wide appeal. Which means it'll always be completely uninteresting. Whether or not it's bad or not is a matter of taste. But you're comparing rap from a time when it wasn't popular music with a time when rap is. There's more great rap now than ever before. It just easily drowns in the torrent of pop rap. But we have the Internet today. If you can be arsed to look for it, it's all there.

I also wonder if this is nostalgia speaking. We have a tendency to get our tastes stuck at whatever we were listening to as teenagers and young adults. It's just lazy and narrow minded.

And finally, making good music is only partly a skill. Mostly it is about having a good ear. If you've got a good ear today you can create fantastic music without being a good musician. That's just a fact. It certainly doesn't hurt to know how to play music. But it is not a requirement today.
 
I changed my mind. I just really listened to A$AP Rocky for the first time, and it's definitely not terrible music.
 
i'm trying to like the suggested posts, but while the words are goods, the beat is blah....

complex beat - dilated peoples....

 
Don't forget Kool A.D

He is a beast. He is experimenting with autotune lately, which annoys me. He has such deep imagery and funny puns tho. I forgive the autotune because he makes me laugh and think. I don't appreciate attempts at visual art in these little underground videos. Like, not everyone is cut out to be an artist just because they have the damn software. Please ease up people. But yeah Kool A.D man. Totally untouchable, and he freestyles most of his studio work. That means no little scribble pad to resort to. All from the head. That takes a lot of bravery as a rapper. He DOES need better production and beats. This stupid loopy ambient stuff is boring but he carries it pretty well, especially for unscripted material

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab4TZQXbZGc[/YOUTUBE]
 
This isn't underground rap, but it is the best beats I've ever heard. Turn it up

 
A couple of quick entries:

Add-2, with Rapsody on the 3rd verse...



For Pyramidhead, Phonte can discuss topics in his life pretty well, despite the unfortunate use of a slur in this one:



Elzhi did a cover of Nes' Illmatic a few years back, it's worth downloading (it's a free mixtape called Elmatic) Here's "It Ain't Hard to Tell"...



Pharoah Monch...



Abnd finally (for now) the multitalented Jean Grae...

 
That's good stuff. I especially like Add-2 and Clap

You mean Pharoahe Monch? Yeah, he's amazingly good, especially sine he has asthma.

I also like Rapsody because there aren't enough women in rap, and Jean Grae for pulling off a quadruple entendre. And for the awesome name.

I other news,

Ace...

Lemme make you sing...
 
A couple of quick entries:

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How do you find new stuff?

Have you ever listened to any Kemba formerly known as YC the Cynic? He was just co-signed by Kendrick Lamar.

Honestly, a lot of the rappers I like have been at it for decades. The new folks I find, I get to via twitter, podcasts like The Black Guy Who Tips, and so on.

I'll look into Kemba...
 
How do you find new stuff?

Have you ever listened to any Kemba formerly known as YC the Cynic? He was just co-signed by Kendrick Lamar.

Honestly, a lot of the rappers I like have been at it for decades. The new folks I find, I get to via twitter, podcasts like The Black Guy Who Tips, and so on.

I'll look into Kemba...

By new stuff I mean people you haven't heard of before.

I got into hip-hop about 3-4 years ago but all the easiest people to find are the most commercial.

Finding the under-ground guys who've put out great records seems a little more hap-hazard. I usually just look up best of lists on Google.
 
Honestly, a lot of the rappers I like have been at it for decades. The new folks I find, I get to via twitter, podcasts like The Black Guy Who Tips, and so on.

I'll look into Kemba...

By new stuff I mean people you haven't heard of before.

I got into hip-hop about 3-4 years ago but all the easiest people to find are the most commercial.

Finding the under-ground guys who've put out great records seems a little more hap-hazard. I usually just look up best of lists on Google.

Well, it's not always nice, hunting down the best... In fact, it'll be rough.

AndI honestly have no clue how to see any rapper outside of the US.

But, well...Twitter, Social media. Go for them.
 
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