PyramidHead
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I'm really getting into MF Doom, just started listening to Madvilliany from 2004. Amazing wordplay, and the beats are killer.
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DOOM is amazing. He's both happy to spout nerdish things, and happy to rhyme entire lines. And yeah, the beats...back when J. Dilla was alive...
Anyway, I'm glad to hear you're getting into it.
PyramidHead
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I wasn't aware he did stuff with J Dilla, I've only listened to his Madlib collab and the MM.. FOOD? album (which I think is also Madlib among others?)
Well, yeah, he was always closer to Madlib than J Dilla. Both are geniuses, regardless.
So you got Madvilliany? Also, mind if I just drop this?
Clearly a Madlib beat, but...well, let's go with it!
PyramidHead
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Amazing. My favorite technique of DOOM's is how he incorporates the vocal samples into his verses. Best example I can think of is Deep Fried Frenz. He'll start a line and then the background sample will literally finish his sentence...
[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/BoW0dZasOEE[/YOUTUBE]
Doom has two major techniques - the first is incorporating vocal samples, as you said. The second is taking polysyllabic rhymes to the point of rhyming one entire line with the next..
I first met MR. Fantastic at an arms deal
don't let it get Drastic, think of how your moms'll feel
And he continues rhyming from there.
Own his own throne, the boss like King Koopa
On the microphone he floss the ring "super"
Average MCs is like a tv blooper
MF Doom he's like DB Cooper
Out with the Moolah.
And throwing in random references to boot. Who else would reference Super Mario Bros. and DB Cooper's robbery at once?
Anyway,...
Tech N9ne. Sometimes he's very thoughtful, sometimes he's ignorant. But he's been one of the best rappers as far as using his voice as a pure percussive device for a while now. I loved this on Lil' Wayne's "The Carter 4", where he seems to simply knock Lil Wayne out of the recording booth in order to deliver his own rap...
Oh, Andre 3000's there, too...but he's not really "underground" by any estimate, I think.
Note, this is not an endorsement of Lil Wayne!
I first met MR. Fantastic at an arms deal
don't let it get Drastic, think of how your moms'll feel
And he continues rhyming from there.
Own his own throne, the boss like King Koopa
On the microphone he floss the ring "super"
Average MCs is like a tv blooper
MF Doom he's like DB Cooper
Out with the Moolah.
And throwing in random references to boot. Who else would reference Super Mario Bros. and DB Cooper's robbery at once?
Anyway,...
Tech N9ne. Sometimes he's very thoughtful, sometimes he's ignorant. But he's been one of the best rappers as far as using his voice as a pure percussive device for a while now. I loved this on Lil' Wayne's "The Carter 4", where he seems to simply knock Lil Wayne out of the recording booth in order to deliver his own rap...
Oh, Andre 3000's there, too...but he's not really "underground" by any estimate, I think.
Note, this is not an endorsement of Lil Wayne!
So, Run the Jewels is Killer Mike and El-P. Both have stellar histories, but let's discuss another group El-P worked with, which is Cannibal Ox.
They had corny, yet funny, hooks, and so on, but the distinction between Vordul Mega and Vast Aire was worth listening to. Check out "Ridiculoud", where we get three very distinct rap styles that somehow work out. I especially like the third verse, where Vast Aire begins by mimicking the drums, and then just launches off from there...
Note that both Vast Aire and (to some extent) Vordul Mega are still rapping...
They had corny, yet funny, hooks, and so on, but the distinction between Vordul Mega and Vast Aire was worth listening to. Check out "Ridiculoud", where we get three very distinct rap styles that somehow work out. I especially like the third verse, where Vast Aire begins by mimicking the drums, and then just launches off from there...
Note that both Vast Aire and (to some extent) Vordul Mega are still rapping...
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb5eEFdewDM[/YOUTUBE]
Murder rap. Best thing about this guy is that he is dead. He was going to die, one way or another. Doe B was. He was blessed as a disturbingly popular and influential ROLE MODEL. They need to roll that model right off the show floor and do some figurative stripping and burnishing. Really soon-like. Bad stuff.
Murder rap. Best thing about this guy is that he is dead. He was going to die, one way or another. Doe B was. He was blessed as a disturbingly popular and influential ROLE MODEL. They need to roll that model right off the show floor and do some figurative stripping and burnishing. Really soon-like. Bad stuff.