The Follwers of the Religion of Peace

[Colonel Sanders]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpvgEHzh6js

It's a short video. Just 90 seconds or so. And this comes to us from Turkey, a NATO ally and EU entrant.

 

[Syed]

(5 thing that allah does not commend )

killing apostate, stoning to death, male / female circumcision, jesus is coming back, killing homosexual

satan ibliss was FIRST apostate who disobeyed allah but allah did not kill or destroy him

 

[Tom Sawyer]

But Satan was God's son. What kind if dickhead would ask someone to kill their own son?

 

[Syed]

But Satan was God's son. What kind if dickhead would ask someone to kill their own son?

who said that?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

You really didn't get the Abraham / Issac allusion?

 

[Syed]

You really didn't get the Abraham / Issac allusion?

who is god's son?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Satan. It was in the sentence you quoted. Or are you suggesting that God didn't create the angels? Because you burn in hell for that kind of blasphemous bullshit and you know it.

 

[Syed]

Satan. It was in the sentence you quoted. Or are you suggesting that God didn't create the angels? Because you burn in hell for that kind of blasphemous bullshit and you know it.

i think you confused with............ i dont know

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, the tv show Supernatural specifically says that Satan is God's son. I don't see why the Bible or Koran would be better sources for the nature of their relationship then it would.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

I thought God created Lucifer as his left-hand man and the he was the most beautiful of all the angels. Yeah, he's definitely not God's son. Maybe an Angel With Benefits, but not his son.

 

[Syed]

I thought God created Lucifer as his left-hand man and the he was the most beautiful of all the angels. Yeah, he's definitely not God's son. Maybe an Angel With Benefits, but not his son.

according to islam satan was among jinn and was not god's left-hand man

 

[Colonel Sanders]

I thought God created Lucifer as his left-hand man and the he was the most beautiful of all the angels. Yeah, he's definitely not God's son. Maybe an Angel With Benefits, but not his son.

according to islam satan was among jinn and was not god's left-hand man

But Allah created him. From fire no less, which is way cooler than dirt.

http://www.islamcan.com/jinn-stories/jinns--their-purpose-of-creation.shtml#.V1ZYHKunU_U
The jinn are part of the creation of Allaah. He created them from fire before He created Adam, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud.

And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire"

[al-Hijr 15:26-27]

And who is this "We" that's being referred to?

More importantly, what's your take on the video in the OP?

 

[Syed]

according to islam satan was among jinn and was not god's left-hand man

But Allah created him. From fire no less, which is way cooler than dirt.

http://www.islamcan.com/jinn-stories/jinns--their-purpose-of-creation.shtml#.V1ZYHKunU_U
The jinn are part of the creation of Allaah. He created them from fire before He created Adam, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud.

And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire"

[al-Hijr 15:26-27]

And who is this "We" that's being referred to?

More importantly, what's your take on the video in the OP?

(5 thing that allah does not commend )

killing apostate, stoning to death, male / female circumcision, jesus is coming back, killing homosexual

satan ibliss was FIRST apostate who disobeyed allah but allah did not kill or destroy him

 

[Perspicuo]

Wrong. Iblis was not an apostate. Apostates don't know, they just stop believing. Iblis on the other hand knew God firsthand.

 

[Syed]

satan rejected god commend

 

[DBT]

You really didn't get the Abraham / Issac allusion?

who is god's son?

''Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.” - Book of Job.

 

[DBT]

satan rejected god commend

Satan refers to anyone who acts the part of accuser or adversary. God has been referred to as 'Satan'' -adversary- in the bible. So have people acting as adversaries.

Here is an example of the use of the word Satan (adversary) in the old testament:

''Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go and take a census of Israel and Judah." 2 Samuel 24:1

''And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.'' 1 Chronicles 21:1

So we see God Himself being referred to as 'Satan' in the form of an adversary to David. *An inner resistance to doing good being referred to as 'satan' without any relationship to a Heavenly revolt or a supernatural 'Devil' *- *example of usage of the term that's to be found in both the OT and the NT, which in later development became (through misinterpretation) a personified fallen Angel.

 

[C_Mucius_Scaevola]

satan rejected god commend

Of course he did. Iblis was ordered to prostrate himself before Adam. Prostration is an act of worship and Iblis, as a true muslim, worshipped only Allah, so he refused. For this he was cast out of heaven and made the adversary (shaitan). Later, when Gibreel was giving Mo the koran, he told him the story and changed it so that Iblis refused out of pride, saying he was better than Adam because he was made of fire, while Adam was made from clay. But it was not out of pride, it was out of piety that he refused. Gibreel lied.

As with the serpent in Genesis, Iblis was punished for doing the right thing. In the one, he refused to prostrate himself before anything/anybody but Allah. In the other, he told Eve the truth (that eating the fruit wouldn't kill her).

 

[Draconis]

It would be interesting if Satan was God's son. That would mean he was Jesus's brother.

 

[C_Mucius_Scaevola]

It would be interesting if Satan was God's son. That would mean he was Jesus's brother.

According to the mormons, he is.

How can Jesus and Lucifer be spirit brothers when their characters and purposes are so utterly opposed?

Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan, Utah. On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in authority in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)