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The Last Republican Debate Thread 12/15/2015

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Did you watch it? What the hell is wrong with CNN? They devoted the entire three hours on the topic of those scary brown Muslim people. Do we have such low expectations of the Republican party that we can only have ONE topic for THREE fucking hours?

The fact is, if you're unfortunate enough to be caught in a mass shooting in this country, there's much more of a chance that there's gonna be a white Christian guy holding that gun than someone shouting "Allah Akbar!"

There was NO mention of gun control - even with the brown terrorist Muslim people.

Really CNN threw nothing but softballs all damn night on this one topic. Fuck CNN, what a waste of time.
 
CNN doesn't care about news. It wanted the Trump show with Trump being his Trumpiest and having him rant about scary brown people is the best way to guarantee ratings.

They also have to air the Democratic debate this Saturday, so they needed to rake in the advertising dollars yesterday to compensate for the dead airtime that gives them. They are a business, after all, and shareholders have rights too.
 
I find it interesting the 1st Dem debate hit record highs, while the 2nd hit record lows.

I think it has to do with the story promoting the debate. That was Clinton's first debate in this presidential run and people were interested in seeing her and hearing what she had to say. Then they'd done that and there wasn't any particularly engaging storyline to tune in for. There's a candidate with a big lead who'll be trying not to say anything stupid or controversial and some other guys who are pretty polite to her. They're going to do things like talk policies and ideas in a calm and rational manner which doesn't make any waves. It's not an engaging contest.

That compares to the Donald Trump and the Crazies show which has a dancing clown in the middle of a stage filled with monkeys who are trying to throw pies at his face. It's entertaining.
 
Did you watch it? What the hell is wrong with CNN? They devoted the entire three hours on the topic of those scary brown Muslim people. Do we have such low expectations of the Republican party that we can only have ONE topic for THREE fucking hours?

The fact is, if you're unfortunate enough to be caught in a mass shooting in this country, there's much more of a chance that there's gonna be a white Christian guy holding that gun than someone shouting "Allah Akbar!"

There was NO mention of gun control - even with the brown terrorist Muslim people.

Really CNN threw nothing but softballs all damn night on this one topic. Fuck CNN, what a waste of time.

I watched it. Trump said in his closing that he's a winner, and that's what we need.
 
Did you watch it? What the hell is wrong with CNN? They devoted the entire three hours on the topic of those scary brown Muslim people. Do we have such low expectations of the Republican party that we can only have ONE topic for THREE fucking hours?

The fact is, if you're unfortunate enough to be caught in a mass shooting in this country, there's much more of a chance that there's gonna be a white Christian guy holding that gun than someone shouting "Allah Akbar!"

There was NO mention of gun control - even with the brown terrorist Muslim people.

Really CNN threw nothing but softballs all damn night on this one topic. Fuck CNN, what a waste of time.

I watched it. Trump said in his closing that he's a winner, and that's what we need.

Yeah, it was the same shtick we've come to expect - hell, he didn't even change the wording from the last debate, really.
 
What is needed is someone like the guy who shut down Eugene McCarthy. That was classic.



Oh now, that's brilliant!

ETA: Bush did zing Trump with that line "You can't insult your way to the presidency." It seemed to really get under Trump's skin. Near the end of the debate, Bush had Trump raising his voice and getting so obviously flustered at not getting his way.
 
Continuing to be left out of the process by party decisions to require payments to get debates. NOTHING was broadcast over-air. And it was done after the library is closed, so I couldn't go there.


This is wrong.
 
Continuing to be left out of the process by party decisions to require payments to get debates. NOTHING was broadcast over-air. And it was done after the library is closed, so I couldn't go there.


This is wrong.

Ya, if only there was some way to get a video of the event by livestreaming it from CNN's website or looking on that site or YouTube the next day. It sucks that those aren't options. :mad:
 
The other thing that I found really showed how inept Trump was is the nuclear question.

HEWITT: Mr. Trump — Dr. Carson just referenced the single most important job of the president, the command and the control and the care of the military forces. The triad, the missiles and submarines are aging out. It’s an executive order. What is your priority? TRUMP: Well first of all, I think we absolutely need someone we can trust who is total responsibility who knows what he or she is doing that is so powerful and so important. And one of the things that I’m frankly most proud of is that in 2003, 2004, I was against going into Iraq because you are going to destabilize the Middle East. I called it, I called it very strongly and it was very important. But we have to be extremely vigilant and careful when it comes to nuclear. Nuclear changes the whole ball game. I would have said get out of Syria, get out. If we didn’t have the power of weaponry today, the power is so massive that we can’t just leave areas that 50 years ago or 75 years ago we wouldn’t care, it was hand-to-hand combat. The biggest problem this world has today is not President Obama with global warming, which is inconceivable, this is what he’s saying. The biggest problem we have today is nuclear proliferation anding are some maniac, having some madman go out and get a nuclear weapon. In my opinion, that is the single biggest problem that our country faces right now. HEWITT: Of the three legs of the triad though, do you have a priority? TRUMP: For me, nuclear, the power, the devastation, is very important to me. HEWITT: Senator Rubio, do you have a response? RUBIO: I do. Well first, let’s explain to people at home what the triad is. Maybe a lot of people have not heard that terminology before. The triad is the ability of the United States to conduct nuclear attacks using airplanes, using missiles launched from silos from the ground and from our nuclear subs. And it’s important, all three are critical. It gives us the ability at deterrence. Now, some are more critical than others. For example, the submarines. And that’s the Ohio class submarine that needs to be modernized. The air component also needs to be modernized. The B-52, as someone earlier pointed out, is an outdated model that was flown by the grandparents of the people flying it now. And we need a serious modernization program of our [cyber launch?] missiles as well.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ear-question-rubio-explains-triad-terminology

Then there was this Christy moment:
When I stand across from King Hussein of Jordan and I say to him, ‘You have a friend again, sir, who will stand with you to fight this fight,’ he’ll change his mind.

That's gonna be difficult, since the guy's been dead for over a decade now.

Such a sorry state of affairs for the Republican party. These clown are their best and brightest?
 
That's gonna be difficult, since the guy's been dead for over a decade now.

Fucking hell, the Muslims have zombies now? I thought terrorists were bad enough, but hordes of undead terrorists streaming in across the undefended border is even worse. Why aren't Obama and Clinton doing something about this?
 
I watched and it was a waste of time. Jingoism and war fever abounded. And the problem is, a lot of Americans will support these sort of assholes. Carpet bombing ISIL? Yeah baby! Killing ISIL membrs families? Start today USA!
Put backdoors into all encryption methods? Technically impossible! The Stupid and outrageous burned bright and hot. Depressing....
 
Then there was this Christy moment:
When I stand across from King Hussein of Jordan and I say to him, ‘You have a friend again, sir, who will stand with you to fight this fight,’ he’ll change his mind.

That's gonna be difficult, since the guy's been dead for over a decade now.

Such a sorry state of affairs for the Republican party. These clown are their best and brightest?
Hey, maybe Crusty is dying and planning to meet the guy.
 
I don't know about replay, but for those without cable, for such events try http://cvinetwork.org/ to watch in real time.
CNN broadcast this but Fox also echoed the CNN feed.

For those of you without cable, this is a rather good resource to know about. Lots of new programs, MSNBC, CNN, CSPAN and others. Now you can watch Rachel Maddow for free.
 
Continuing to be left out of the process by party decisions to require payments to get debates. NOTHING was broadcast over-air. And it was done after the library is closed, so I couldn't go there.


This is wrong.

Ya, if only there was some way to get a video of the event by livestreaming it from CNN's website or looking on that site or YouTube the next day. It sucks that those aren't options. :mad:

It briefly was on YouTube but got taken down just after the debates.
 
What is needed is someone like the guy who shut down Eugene McCarthy. That was classic.



Oh now, that's brilliant!

ETA: Bush did zing Trump with that line "You can't insult your way to the presidency." It seemed to really get under Trump's skin. Near the end of the debate, Bush had Trump raising his voice and getting so obviously flustered at not getting his way.
I ponder whether Jeb used this debate to try and pull off a McCain in New Hampshire.

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The other thing that I found really showed how inept Trump was is the nuclear question.



Then there was this Christy moment:
When I stand across from King Hussein of Jordan and I say to him, ‘You have a friend again, sir, who will stand with you to fight this fight,’ he’ll change his mind.

That's gonna be difficult, since the guy's been dead for over a decade now.

Such a sorry state of affairs for the Republican party. These clown are their best and brightest?
No, not Saddam Hussein, King Hussein.

What?! They are both dead? Fucking quitters!
 
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