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The over-arching direction of the United States

Ya, the anti-Trump folks try to paint the guy as some sort of aberration and anomaly who doesn't represent what the US is about, as opposed to his being the natural conclusion to the direction that the US has taken over the past several decades. If half of your country is dedicated to undercutting the role of government while generally being ignorant dicks and the other half has its head shoved so far up its ass it hasn't seen the sun in years, this is the kind of shit you deserve.

We'll see what happens in '18. The tenor of recent "town hall" events for repug politicians are very reminiscent of the tea-party demonstrations in '09 that foretold a massive ass-whuppin' that the Dems suffered in 2010.
I won't be surprised is we have a mirror-image repeat of that phenomenon. The pendulum swings, and when it swings too far, the backlash is something to behold.
A lot of Trump voters that I know and that I've seen interviewed recently are like "Yeah, I like what he's doing but I don't like how he's doing it. He should back off the Tweets." Some say "He's getting things done, but he is going too far, trying to make an impression" ... etc.
To me, that signals a noticeable reduction in enthusiasm for Cheato & Company. Add the absence of a personified devil like HRC, and if things don't change a lot in the next 18 months, the turnout in '18 could greatly favor the Dems, who are far more fired up now than they were during the 2016 campaigns. Of course, there are still 18+ months for the Repugs to arrange for more voter suppression and gerrymandering, not to mention whatever help Uncle Vlad might lend them. But the grass roots seem to be growing left, IMHO.
 
What Jason wants is a country where one faction can continually wring concessions out of the other by threatening violence. This is exactly what happened prior to the Civil War. The South kept threatening to secede, for decades. Every time wringing concessions out of the North, until finally the North had enough. The South attacked the North, expecting the latter to once again roll over and give them what they wanted, but the South soon learned they weren't the only ones who can use violence. And after they lost they lied and made up the 'War of Northern Aggression.'

The FBI has found that white supremacists have spent decades infiltrating law enforcement agencies. Enforcement of laws against violent offenders are so inconsistently enforced as to give a single faction of people an exclusive monopoly on it. Why should I accept this injustice, just because one side decries violence only when it happens to them? You accuse me of factionalism: I have news for you: when one group of people exploits the aversion of the majority to disunion by using threats to wring concessions, then the situation is already broken, and it is better to make a firm stand. The election showed there were more of us then them, even though they won on a technicality. We should be conscious of our strength. If there's anything I've learned from reading about revolutions in history is that the weaker side can win if the stronger side is afraid to use its strength. For example: the Bolsheviks, who were never a majority. Time after time, the majority failed to come to an agreement, or even, having an overwhelming advantage, feared to use it.

I am not calling for violence. I am calling for a firm stand, backed by the willingness to use violence if necessary. Exactly as it was in the Civil War, peaceful reconciliation goes only so far. Now, today, the fucking Nazis are attacking people in the streets. It is happening. The line is being crossed. I no longer care what their propaganda says. A poll came out today saying that 51% of Trump voters believe that the 'Bowling Green Massacre' was real. Fuck them. They aren't going to listen to the truth. Why bother trying to show a good face to people who are willing to listen to any lie or slander against you?

I am about as extreme of a left-winger as you can get - dude - so resist the temptation to go off on a self-righteous diatribe, and try to actually grok what I'm saying. The majority of the country is not left-wing - the left-wing is *not the majority in the United States*. Both sides are small minorities, and then there exists the great, unwashed mass of people who wouldn't give two shiny-shits about politics. If people like Antifa and black bloc protestors keep it up, though, this great, unwashed mass of "centrists" will suddenly start supporting the far-right, because they are fucking centrist scum and the one thing they hate is disorder. Again, this is exactly what happened in Germany.

And the real problem with your little scenario is that the Left in the US are a bunch of fucking pussies. Get real, a violent revolution? How are a bunch of upper-middle class gender studies majors - who hate guns, by the way - going to fare against a bunch of corn-fed fucks from the heartland whose favorite past-time is going into the woods and shooting shit? Hell, they would probably get upset that I used the word pussies! And this brings me to the point I'm making: the Left in the US couldn't strategize their way out of a paper bag, their heads are too far up their own asses. The way to defeat Trump is by convincing the middle that *he is a fool*. This *can* be done. I know that the election left you with a sense of despair, that anything Trump does just washes off of him. But that is only because the Democrats decided to nominate perhaps the worst possible candidate to put up against Trump. The democrats have abandoned the working class, and no candidate symbolizes this more than a fucking Clinton. And also, the cultural left, cultural/critical theory type people, have jumped the fucking shark and the things they say sound fucking stupid to the common person. But when it's only Trump up there, you can kill him with the thousands cuts of stupidity.

I think a great microcosm for this is Milo. While I find Milo hilarious, and do agree with his criticisms of campus leftists, he is all rhetoric and very little substance. Unfortunately, he has discovered that you can goad the left into losing their shit, and he ends being vindicated. But he is similarly easy to defeat - just let him keep talking. Look up his interview with Joe Rogan. Joe lets him talk and talk, and finally, when the amount of bullshit reached a critical mass, Joe called him on it, and Milo couldn't defend it. He can't help it either. This never happens at any of his talks because a) the campus left has never listened to what he actually says, so they try to accuse him of being an alt-right white supremacist (for example), because really, name-calling is all they've got, but then he can counter that easily, and b) the campus left has jumped the fucking shark and repeat easily refutable canards like fucking mantras. But he is no fucking luminary, indeed, the fact that he has made the left look dumb is a testament to how far up their own asses they are.
 
I'm not advocating a far left revolution. I'm not advocating anything that is a revolution, or far-left.

I am advocating that we stop being pussies. You are certainly right about that. I am not saying we should use violence. I am saying we should make ourselves ready in case it happens.
 
You asked me to back up my claim that the nazis were attacking people in the streets, I gave you an example. Thats what it has to do with you. I never said it was libertarians attacking people in the streets. Is it my turn to bash you for reading comprehension?

Okay, you found evidence of hate crimes. Not necessarily nazis, but hate crimes. I'll actually give you a pass on that even though I shouldn't. Now there's all the rest of your claims that need support.

1. You think I want a society where one group wrings concessions by threatening violence.
2. You think I advocate other groups to surrender in the face of political violence.
 
And the Democrats are conservatives.
Democrats have been moving to the left in recent years. Especially the base. That's why Sanders had such a strong showing in the primaries. And why even Hillary moved to the left.

There has been a surge in left-wing movements from Black Lives Matter to the braindead opposition to pipelines.

The polarization is on both sides, not just one.

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Right wingers continually threaten violence against the people.
They get frightened when we demonstrate we are also capable of it.

But that's righteous violence, right? Violence in the service of the revolution, right?
 
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