Swammerdami
Squadron Leader
@ DrZoidberg — I am going to admit that I am starting to find you annoying. Almost every sentence in your latest post is wrong and condescending. (I've noticed similar posts from you in other threads.) I hope you will take this response as helpful.
@ Mods — In the following, some of my remarks directed at DrZoidberg will seem almost insulting. Please note that the post I am responding to had several insults directed at me.
Please study the STRUCTURE of this response to you, DrZoidberg. Observe that I single out brief excerpts by you and then respond to them. In future, if you want me to read your posts you should do the same. As it is, you quote my post and "respond" to it in a way that leaves me wondering what you think you're responding to, or even if you read my post at all.
Where's the emoticon for total bafflement? The majority of experts agree Trump is a childish and incompetent sociopathic. So you agree it was silly for people to vote for him? Or perhaps even be allowed to vote for him?
And what if the "majority" is a mere 51% of "experts", with 49% opposed? Do we amateurs need to automatically bow down to the 51%??
And who the HELL determines who is or is not an "expert" on a topic like this anyway? Certainly people who have not bothered to study the cases are not experts.
This is from a guy who, in effect, brags that he hasn't read the thread, has read few (or zero?) articles by those he calls "conspiracy theorists." Ha Ha Ha. YOU don't have any reason not to think he wrote them, because actually clicking the links — or even skimming this thread — is beneath your dignity. You already know the answer. Stand back, pretend you're not the one who wrote this (if you can), and see how utterly preposterous and condescending you appear.
Collecting coins as a hobby doesn't matter much. It's whether they work in the candy-bar vending machine that people care about.
Can you walk and chew gum at the same time, DrZoidberg? Someone who appreciates the plays doesn't have time to wonder who wrote them? And someone who wonders who wrote them can't appreciate them?
One reason it's hard for me to find Stratfordians convincing is that many of them repeat things that are false, or don't make sense. You've hit all the buttons!
I'm not a biologist, but I find Nick Lane's books about biology fascinating. I guess I'm bizarre.
I'm no longer a professional bridge player but I still like to play. Bizarre?
I'm not a detective, but I enjoy whodunnits. Bizarre?
Wow! You totally misunderstand me. I told you that already. You repeat yourself. Do you see that you are insulting me? I explained my motives, so now you are accusing me of lying.
And what did you "read about Shakespeare skeptics"? If you want to know how those skeptics thin, read their writing, not the views of the anti-skeptics. Do you see the vicious cycle you're in? You refuse to read Oxfordians because you assme they're crackpots. And will continue to assume they're crackpots because you won't read them. You won't even skim this thread. What a joke!
Bomb#20 and others in the thread are Stratfordians. But Mr. Bomb was thoughtful enough to treat the topic with respect, and to post a link that stimulated thought and debate. You, on the other hand, want to do nothing but insult me and other Oxfordians, openly bragging that you won't even read the thread.
Your "contribution" was to mention a visit to Denmark by three actors 15 years before Hamlet was written. (Though you stated that it was just one (1) year before Hamlet was written. Ha ha ha. Your prescription that amateurs shouldn't get involved might be very good advice ... in your case.)
"against established scholarly views" Your ignorance makes me laugh! Out of curiosity, what is the 'Dr' in your name for?
@ Mods — In the following, some of my remarks directed at DrZoidberg will seem almost insulting. Please note that the post I am responding to had several insults directed at me.
Please study the STRUCTURE of this response to you, DrZoidberg. Observe that I single out brief excerpts by you and then respond to them. In future, if you want me to read your posts you should do the same. As it is, you quote my post and "respond" to it in a way that leaves me wondering what you think you're responding to, or even if you read my post at all.
OK. You're here to teach, not to learn. Got it.I have not read the whole thread. Nor will I.
Precisely which piece of information was that?I just saw one piece of information that was incorrect ...
... it's silly for an amateur to question something the majority of the experts agree on.
Where's the emoticon for total bafflement? The majority of experts agree Trump is a childish and incompetent sociopathic. So you agree it was silly for people to vote for him? Or perhaps even be allowed to vote for him?
And what if the "majority" is a mere 51% of "experts", with 49% opposed? Do we amateurs need to automatically bow down to the 51%??
And who the HELL determines who is or is not an "expert" on a topic like this anyway? Certainly people who have not bothered to study the cases are not experts.
People who challenge whether Shakespeare actually wrote them is[sic] a bit like conspiracy theorists. They care more about whether the clues fit together, rather than whether or not the basic question makes sense. It doesn't. There's no reason not to think he wrote them, or was the main author.
This is from a guy who, in effect, brags that he hasn't read the thread, has read few (or zero?) articles by those he calls "conspiracy theorists." Ha Ha Ha. YOU don't have any reason not to think he wrote them, because actually clicking the links — or even skimming this thread — is beneath your dignity. You already know the answer. Stand back, pretend you're not the one who wrote this (if you can), and see how utterly preposterous and condescending you appear.
What's also interesting is that it doesn't actually matter much. It's his work that people ultimately care about.
Collecting coins as a hobby doesn't matter much. It's whether they work in the candy-bar vending machine that people care about.
Can you walk and chew gum at the same time, DrZoidberg? Someone who appreciates the plays doesn't have time to wonder who wrote them? And someone who wonders who wrote them can't appreciate them?
One reason it's hard for me to find Stratfordians convincing is that many of them repeat things that are false, or don't make sense. You've hit all the buttons!
It's a bit bizarre having any strong opinions about the man himself, unless you are a Shakespeare scholar
I'm not a biologist, but I find Nick Lane's books about biology fascinating. I guess I'm bizarre.
I'm no longer a professional bridge player but I still like to play. Bizarre?
I'm not a detective, but I enjoy whodunnits. Bizarre?
But what I've learned from reading about Shakespeare skeptics is that their motivations for challenging his authorship is rarely based on any genuine interest. It's always, of what I can see, some ideological crusade or another. As if everybody wants his authorship to prove some pet theory on humanity that they're harbouring.
Wow! You totally misunderstand me. I told you that already. You repeat yourself. Do you see that you are insulting me? I explained my motives, so now you are accusing me of lying.
And what did you "read about Shakespeare skeptics"? If you want to know how those skeptics thin, read their writing, not the views of the anti-skeptics. Do you see the vicious cycle you're in? You refuse to read Oxfordians because you assme they're crackpots. And will continue to assume they're crackpots because you won't read them. You won't even skim this thread. What a joke!
Bomb#20 and others in the thread are Stratfordians. But Mr. Bomb was thoughtful enough to treat the topic with respect, and to post a link that stimulated thought and debate. You, on the other hand, want to do nothing but insult me and other Oxfordians, openly bragging that you won't even read the thread.
Your "contribution" was to mention a visit to Denmark by three actors 15 years before Hamlet was written. (Though you stated that it was just one (1) year before Hamlet was written. Ha ha ha. Your prescription that amateurs shouldn't get involved might be very good advice ... in your case.)
Mr. Moogly refers, I think to my link to a paper by a Professor of Mathematics who analyzes results from a PhD in a relevant thread. These two Professors are the "random people" you insult, as you'd know if you could condescend to read the thread.Assuming that the information presented in this thread is accurate. When random people on the Internet present controversial evidence that go against established scholarly views, I'm not going to look at the evidence presented.
"against established scholarly views" Your ignorance makes me laugh! Out of curiosity, what is the 'Dr' in your name for?