The Worst Field Trip Ever (or Why We Must Now Build an Actial Hell)

[Keith&Co.]

Technically, the fourth graders had no clue what he was rambling on about.

Technically, neither did Groen.

Apparently, neither did the parents. In another report, the principal fielded many phone calls from parents wanting to know what Planned Parenthood was and how it's connected to the State Raptor.

 

[Keith&Co.]

State legislatures vote on silly things all the time, and part of the list of silly things is naming stuff. They get to name bridges and schools and yes, state raptors.

When my sixth grade class visited the Idaho legislature, our rep introduced us to the floor and moved to make that day Idaho Sixth-Grader Day. It was unanimously approved. Our rep sat down and someone stood to introduce a group that was worried that state troopers weren't enforcing the new speed limit on the highways. He suggested State Speed Limit Day, which was unanimously approved, though i did notice a lot of eyes rolling on the legislature floor....

 

[Nice Squirrel]

State legislatures vote on silly things all the time, and part of the list of silly things is naming stuff. They get to name bridges and schools and yes, state raptors.

When my sixth grade class visited the Idaho legislature, our rep introduced us to the floor and moved to make that day Idaho Sixth-Grader Day. It was unanimously approved. Our rep sat down and someone stood to introduce a group that was worried that state troopers weren't enforcing the new speed limit on the highways. He suggested State Speed Limit Day, which was unanimously approved, though i did notice a lot of eyes rolling on the legislature floor....

"And now we are going to have a closed door session to proclaim, 'State Can-You-Believe-This-Crap Day'."

 

[EricK]

These kids are geniuses. One of the alternative names of the red-tailed hawk is the chicken hawk. So they were trying to get 'chicken hawk' to be the state raptor. I wish I'd thought of that.

 

[ronburgundy]

I'm with those who don't see the problem as him saying this in front of the kids, but rather that he even thought these things.
Kids are not remotely as fragile as adults (or many in the mental health profession) paint them to be. Any half decent parent could use this experience as a way to improve the child's life (and ours) by helping the child to understand highly flawed human nature of government that requires a skeptical eye, and the particular mentally unstable nature of fundamentalist religionists that control the GOP whose perspectives are incompatible with a government based in secular reason.

The incident is more problematic in highlighting a particular congressmen who words prove him mentally unfit for office, yet no one will dream of calling for his removal because of the the pro-Christian bias that gives bigotry and mental incompetence a pass when it comes wearing the dressings of mainstream religion.

 

[dismal]

Yes, I agree a state raptor is totally brainwashing.

Well, I can understand why the squirrel community would be against the glorification of raptors.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Yes, I agree a state raptor is totally brainwashing.

Well, I can understand why the squirrel community would be against the glorification of raptors.

Lucky for them to have the Head Squirrel arguing against it on the House floor.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

All these kids wanted was to write a bill, watch it go through the process, and see it become law so that one day when they have kids of their own they can say, "You know I wrote a law once. Let me tell you that story."

That's it. Just a day for the kids to feel special. Just a day for the kids to see what government looks like when it works. Trust me, before they die they will have plenty of opportunities to see government NOT work.

But an asshole. who could not see beyond a chance to hog a mic for his own self-aggrandizement, could not let a group of school kids have their 15 mins. The fool didn't even have the political awareness that that sad kids lead to upset parents also known as VOTERS.

 

[dismal]

All these kids wanted was to write a bill, watch it go through the process, and see it become law so that one day when they have kids of their own they can say, "You know I wrote a law once. Let me tell you that story."

That's it. Just a day for the kids to feel special. Just a day for the kids to see what government looks like when it works. Trust me, before they die they will have plenty of opportunities to see government NOT work.

But an asshole. who could not see beyond a chance to hog a mic for his own self-aggrandizement, could not let a group of school kids have their 15 mins. The fool didn't even have the political awareness that that sad kids lead to upset parents also known as VOTERS.

I have never met a kid with a strong desire to name a state raptor and a yearning to ram their opinion through congress to the chagrin of those who may have favored other raptors, so I question somewhat your belief in how much this was important to the kids.

But even so, the goalposts seem to be shifting as the original article suggested the point was to teach kids about how politics works, not give them some phony sense of self esteem.

 

[RavenSky]

So the argument is that the congresspersons should have acted all artificially nicey-nice because there were kids there to, er, learn how politics really works?

I think the argument is that the guy has a screw loose. Everything he sees reminds him of abortion and he just has to share. It doesn't matter whether his interjection is remotely relevant to the topic at hand, he's going to tell you that it reminds him of abortion and he doesn't like abortion.

Could probably write a comedy skit about it.

Sounds like the student yapping all the time about rape from the other thread

 

[AthenaAwakened]

All these kids wanted was to write a bill, watch it go through the process, and see it become law so that one day when they have kids of their own they can say, "You know I wrote a law once. Let me tell you that story."

That's it. Just a day for the kids to feel special. Just a day for the kids to see what government looks like when it works. Trust me, before they die they will have plenty of opportunities to see government NOT work.

But an asshole. who could not see beyond a chance to hog a mic for his own self-aggrandizement, could not let a group of school kids have their 15 mins. The fool didn't even have the political awareness that that sad kids lead to upset parents also known as VOTERS.

I have never met a kid with a strong desire to name a state raptor and a yearning to ram their opinion through congress to the chagrin of those who may have favored other raptors, so I question somewhat your belief in how much this was important to the kids.

But even so, the goalposts seem to be shifting as the original article suggested the point was to teach kids about how politics works, not give them some phony sense of self esteem.

You know people do things for more than one reason, right? And not every statement is an invitation to debate, sometimes it is just an observation.

 

[dismal]

I have never met a kid with a strong desire to name a state raptor and a yearning to ram their opinion through congress to the chagrin of those who may have favored other raptors, so I question somewhat your belief in how much this was important to the kids.

But even so, the goalposts seem to be shifting as the original article suggested the point was to teach kids about how politics works, not give them some phony sense of self esteem.

You know people do things for more than one reason, right? And not every statement is an invitation to debate, sometimes it is just an observation.

Well, in a political debate forum it is.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

You know people do things for more than one reason, right? And not every statement is an invitation to debate, sometimes it is just an observation.

Well, in a political debate forum it is.

No. not really.