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'They Were Truly Gone': Solving the Mysteries of the Dozier School

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The Florida authorities called the Dozier School for Boys a reformatory, a home for orphans or wayward boys who needed a little guidance. But the boys sent to the school called it Hell.

The Dozier School was located in the tiny town of Marianna, West of Tallahassee and three hours from the Georgia line. It opened in 1900 as the Florida State Reform School, and despite years of reports of series abuse and mistreatment, it remained open for over 100 years. At least 98 people died there over the years, two staff members and 96 boys aged six to 18. Men who were once Dozier residents recounted brutal beatings they received in the White House, a small outbuilding on the school grounds whose walls remain spattered with what looks like blood. More than one survivor has called the building "a torture chamber."

A group of men who were sent to the school in the 1950s and '60s have banded together to tell their stories: they call themselves the White House Boys. The Tampa Bay Times has done the best coverage of the Dozier School, including an investigation in 2009 that uncovered squalid conditions, staff neglect and mistreatment from 1900 to the present day, depicting the school, as they put it, as "a place of abuse and neglect, of falsified records, bloody noses and broken bones." (Meanwhile, some Marianna residents have called all the stories on the school "one-sided" and complained that the coverage has made the town look bad.)

In 2009, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigated the abuse claims and said they were unable to substantiate them. But three years after Dozier finally closed its doors, an anthropological team has been working to uncover the schools' dead and its many secrets. What they've found since beginning work in January 2012 with federal funding casts significant doubt on the state's claims.

Dr. Erin Kimmerle is a forensic anthropologist, an associate professor at the University of South Florida and a leader of the team excavating Dozier. (Before coming to USF, she worked as the Chief Anthropologist at the Hague, analyzing mass graves in Bosnia and Croatia.) Along with two colleagues (Antoinette Jackson and Christian Wells) and a crew of graduate students, Kimmerle has been excavating Boot Hill, the burial ground at Dozier, as well as the surrounding area and trying, through DNA testing, to return the boys' remains to their families for a proper burial.

In January of 2014, the team exhumed 55 bodies—five more than they expected to find, 24 more than official records said were buried there. There are still many questions: how many boys lie buried under the Dozier grounds, their bodies slowly entwining with the roots of the mulberry trees around them? How did they die? And who do we hold accountable for the 100 years of suffering the Dozier school inflicted?

Last week I spoke on the phone with Dr. Kimmerle about her work at Dozier. The state says she and her team have until August 5 of this year to continue searching the school grounds.

 
I heard about this on NPR about 18 months ago. The claims by the guest seemed rather drastic and the way he talked about certain things, he was inconsistent... but you really can't argue with a bunch of unaccounted dead bodies.
 
I heard about this on NPR about 18 months ago. The claims by the guest seemed rather drastic and the way he talked about certain things, he was inconsistent... but you really can't argue with a bunch of unaccounted dead bodies.

When you've been through something enduring and terrible, things get jumbled and mixed up. Did the flogging happen before you peed yourself, or did they flog you BECAUSE you peed yourself? Which flogging? Was it the one with the board or the belt? And which one with the board? It's hard to remember because you don't want to remember. Oh yeah, that's right! It was all of the above. Repeatedly. You only want to forget.
 
I heard about this on NPR about 18 months ago. The claims by the guest seemed rather drastic and the way he talked about certain things, he was inconsistent... but you really can't argue with a bunch of unaccounted dead bodies.

When you've been through something enduring and terrible, things get jumbled and mixed up. Did the flogging happen before you peed yourself, or did they flog you BECAUSE you peed yourself? Which flogging? Was it the one with the board or the belt? And which one with the board? It's hard to remember because you don't want to remember. Oh yeah, that's right! It was all of the above. Repeatedly. You only want to forget.
It was more that he stated he didn't really see anything and then describes an incident where he saw something... a couple of times. The forensic evidence seems pretty clear that some really bad stuff went down. Whether the guest actually had witnessed or experienced these things is unknown. What is known is that the school was apparently hell and the state continues to cover it up.
 
Situations like this are found around the world, and I doubt this will be the only case of inhumanity against a fellow human being.

My question is: why were the inmates sent there in the first place? What are the back stories of the inmates that warranted them being sent to such a hell-hole?

I ask this because St Helena Island here in Brisbane, was a prison set up for the incorrigible, as was Norfolk Island. These penal colonies were set up to house the consistent escapees in an effort to thwart their attempts.

Why then was this place set up? What did a boy have to do to get sent there?

Stories like this intrigue me as I do like to learn about historical crime and consequential punishment.
 
Situations like this are found around the world, and I doubt this will be the only case of inhumanity against a fellow human being.

My question is: why were the inmates sent there in the first place? What are the back stories of the inmates that warranted them being sent to such a hell-hole?

I ask this because St Helena Island here in Brisbane, was a prison set up for the incorrigible, as was Norfolk Island. These penal colonies were set up to house the consistent escapees in an effort to thwart their attempts.

Why then was this place set up? What did a boy have to do to get sent there?

Stories like this intrigue me as I do like to learn about historical crime and consequential punishment.

It's the Florida panhandle. A lot of really fucked up racist antigay shit goes down there. It was a 'reform school' in some of the worst years of the last century+. Anyone who wouldn't toe some kind of conservative line in a shithole
Like Florida might end up in such a place.
 
Situations like this are found around the world, and I doubt this will be the only case of inhumanity against a fellow human being.

My question is: why were the inmates sent there in the first place? What are the back stories of the inmates that warranted them being sent to such a hell-hole?

I ask this because St Helena Island here in Brisbane, was a prison set up for the incorrigible, as was Norfolk Island. These penal colonies were set up to house the consistent escapees in an effort to thwart their attempts.

Why then was this place set up? What did a boy have to do to get sent there?

Stories like this intrigue me as I do like to learn about historical crime and consequential punishment.

It's the Florida panhandle. A lot of really fucked up racist antigay shit goes down there. It was a 'reform school' in some of the worst years of the last century+. Anyone who wouldn't toe some kind of conservative line in a shithole
Like Florida might end up in such a place.

Is glad she doesn't live in a country like that.. PHEW.. Oh wait - hang on - I live in a country where the WHOLE COUNTRY was a penal colony? :O

Just kidding - I hear you. Australia is a fairly liberal country in that regard. The worst times were during the days when the penal colonies were paramount to regular communities.
 
Situations like this are found around the world, and I doubt this will be the only case of inhumanity against a fellow human being.

My question is: why were the inmates sent there in the first place? What are the back stories of the inmates that warranted them being sent to such a hell-hole?

I ask this because St Helena Island here in Brisbane, was a prison set up for the incorrigible, as was Norfolk Island. These penal colonies were set up to house the consistent escapees in an effort to thwart their attempts.

Why then was this place set up? What did a boy have to do to get sent there?

Stories like this intrigue me as I do like to learn about historical crime and consequential punishment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_School_for_Boys

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It's the Florida panhandle. A lot of really fucked up racist antigay shit goes down there. It was a 'reform school' in some of the worst years of the last century+. Anyone who wouldn't toe some kind of conservative line in a shithole
Like Florida might end up in such a place.

Is glad she doesn't live in a country like that.. PHEW.. Oh wait - hang on - I live in a country where the WHOLE COUNTRY was a penal colony? :O

Just kidding - I hear you. Australia is a fairly liberal country in that regard. The worst times were during the days when the penal colonies were paramount to regular communities.

Don't judge the U.S. by the Florida panhandle, especially from days gone by.

I'd be interested in hearing about St. Helena Island and Norfolk Island.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_School_for_Boys

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It's the Florida panhandle. A lot of really fucked up racist antigay shit goes down there. It was a 'reform school' in some of the worst years of the last century+. Anyone who wouldn't toe some kind of conservative line in a shithole
Like Florida might end up in such a place.

Is glad she doesn't live in a country like that.. PHEW.. Oh wait - hang on - I live in a country where the WHOLE COUNTRY was a penal colony? :O

Just kidding - I hear you. Australia is a fairly liberal country in that regard. The worst times were during the days when the penal colonies were paramount to regular communities.

Don't judge the U.S. by the Florida panhandle, especially from days gone by.

I'd be interested in hearing about St. Helena Island and Norfolk Island.

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