This may be the smoking gun in the Russia investigation

[poster]

You seriously are not aware of Robert Mueller's history?

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/21/at-fbi-mueller-oversaw-post-911-torture/

https://consortiumnews.com/tag/robert-mueller/page/3/?print=print-search

There, I answered your question. Now do your part and come clean.

Mueller was head of the FBI, not the CIA. It was the CIA committing the torture in the middle east and the first article seemingly tries to paint the FBI with what the CIA was doing. It also implied that torture was committed on detainees in New York yet what they described, "restrict the 9/11 detainees’ ability to contact the outside world and delay their immigration hearings" and " the FBI that recommended housing the detainees in the maximum security facility", is nothing near torture. It's basically a lying, distorting hit piece written in June 2017 against their perceived bad guy.

The second one is similar. The only tie in to Mueller is the writer wrote an email to Mueller and never heard anything back. No proof that Mueller had anything to do with her getting stung with "I had technically broken FBI policy by not seeking FBI “pre-publication review” and approval for sharing my letter with news outlets" which she freely admits.

Try harder.

LOL

 

[barbos]

For all we know Mueller might have had the story planted in order to allow the effects of the letdown begin. I would not put it past him.

It makes no sense for him to do it. But for Trump supporters on the other hand it makes perfect sense.

 

[ZiprHead]

You seriously are not aware of Robert Mueller's history?

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/21/at-fbi-mueller-oversaw-post-911-torture/

https://consortiumnews.com/tag/robert-mueller/page/3/?print=print-search

There, I answered your question. Now do your part and come clean.

Mueller was head of the FBI, not the CIA. It was the CIA committing the torture in the middle east and the first article seemingly tries to paint the FBI with what the CIA was doing. It also implied that torture was committed on detainees in New York yet what they described, "restrict the 9/11 detainees’ ability to contact the outside world and delay their immigration hearings" and " the FBI that recommended housing the detainees in the maximum security facility", is nothing near torture. It's basically a lying, distorting hit piece written in June 2017 against their perceived bad guy.

The second one is similar. The only tie in to Mueller is the writer wrote an email to Mueller and never heard anything back. No proof that Mueller had anything to do with her getting stung with "I had technically broken FBI policy by not seeking FBI “pre-publication review” and approval for sharing my letter with news outlets" which she freely admits.

Try harder.

LOL

Thank you for that lucid, well thought out, and fact based response. You really got me good there.

 

[Keith&Co.]

The timing is weird. The response is weird.

Would yhey make more sense if this was a Trump leak?

Reveal a story that's true enough, with supporting evidence, to convince a journalist to go public eith it, but with some bullshit at odds with what Cohen is going to say... to reduce his credibility.
Because as soon as the story broke, Trump and his posse pounced on Cohen...

Muelle r was probably expected to start worrying about leaks, and remain silent on the active investigation.

Cogress grills Cohen, his story doesn't match, Trump claims both are liars.

Then Guliani accidentally reveals the whole thing on CNN...

 

[poster]

LOL

Thank you for that lucid, well thought out, and fact based response. You really got me good there.

You're welcome! It's about the only type of post you appear to comprehend.

You still don't want to own up to sucking up to Buzzfeed in near record time without vetting a story in your normal "no bullshit makes it past these eyes" kind of way? Apologies are owed!

After all - what you buy into impacts the rest of the membership here to such a huge extent.

 

[poster]

For all we know Mueller might have had the story planted in order to allow the effects of the letdown begin. I would not put it past him.

It makes no sense for him to do it. But for Trump supporters on the other hand it makes perfect sense.

Buzzfeed seems to have indicated that the story came from two people intimately involved to some extent with the normally very tight-lipped Mueller team. So, you're saying Mueller's team first leaked the information to Trump supporters knowing they'd bring it to Buzzfeed?

And you think that makes perfect sense?

 

[ZiprHead]

LOL

Thank you for that lucid, well thought out, and fact based response. You really got me good there.

You're welcome! It's about the only type of post you appear to comprehend.

You still don't want to own up to sucking up to Buzzfeed in near record time without vetting a story in your normal "no bullshit makes it past these eyes" kind of way? Apologies are owed!

After all - what you buy into impacts the rest of the membership here to such a huge extent.

LOL!

I comprehended your conservative news links quite well and destroyed them. Too bad you didn't before you embarrassed yourself by posting them.

 

[poster]

You're welcome! It's about the only type of post you appear to comprehend.

You still don't want to own up to sucking up to Buzzfeed in near record time without vetting a story in your normal "no bullshit makes it past these eyes" kind of way? Apologies are owed!

After all - what you buy into impacts the rest of the membership here to such a huge extent.

LOL!

Get your own material.

 

[barbos]

Get your grammar straight, it's called "smocking gun"

 

[Keith&Co.]

Right, right, right. Because the conservatives' rush to accept the story but claim that the evidence was planted by the FBI, that was the mature response.

 

[ZiprHead]

Right, right, right. Because the conservatives' rush to accept the story but claim that the evidence was planted by the FBI, that was the mature response.

61 Percent of Republicans Think the FBI Is Framing Trump, Poll Finds

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Right, right, right. Because the conservatives' rush to accept the story but claim that the evidence was planted by the FBI, that was the mature response.

61 Percent of Republicans Think the FBI Is Framing Trump, Poll Finds

2/3 of americans also think we arrived in a magical garden, put there by a space ghost with super powers. The correlation here is not a coincidence.

 

[AirPoh]

^Or equivocate.^

Exactly. The statement from Muller was equivocating. Elixer explained that quite well. Why reiterate?

So Mueller is the equivocator?

When he feels it's necessary. It's obviously a no brainer.

- - - Updated - - -

The story could very well turn out to be accurate to some degree, but that does not excuse the behavior displayed by the members in this thread or the other one on the same subject that jumped on it for no reason other than that it came from Buzzfeed and was more dirt on Trump.

The members should come clean and admit all that and promise to do better in the future. That would show integrity.

It doesn't have to be a big deal, just something like "well, that was a bit of a fuck up on my part, I can't allow that to happen again". Even something simple like a "sorry, my bad" could go a long way. I promise not to ride you for it.

It just might end up being a warm-up of sorts for when Mueller submits his report.

Waiting for you're integrity.

 

[Keith&Co.]

It just might end up being a warm-up of sorts for when Mueller submits his report.

Waiting for you're integrity.

That's kinda odd.
It's been the conservatives, and the 'I don't like Trump, But...' posters who are sure what the contents of Mueller's report will be. Which they haven't seen. And have no clues to. And are definitely jumping the gun on predicting that it'll be a disappointment...
While the rest of us have been literally stating that we don't know what Mueller knows, or what he will report.

Poster seems to be posting from an alternate reality...

 

[AirPoh]

For all we know Mueller might have had the story planted in order to allow the effects of the letdown begin. I would not put it past him.

If [AirQuote]For all we know ...[/AirQuote] why should anyone have to [AirQuote]come clean[/AirQuote]?

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Right, right, right. Because the conservatives' rush to accept the story but claim that the evidence was planted by the FBI, that was the mature response.

61 Percent of Republicans Think the FBI Is Framing Trump, Poll Finds

2/3 of americans also think we arrived in a magical garden, put there by a space ghost with super powers. The correlation here is not a coincidence.

I’m actually more concerned about the 7% of Dems who think he’s being framed. Who the fuck are those morons and how are their brain stems possibly sustaining autonomic functions?

 

[Elixir]

It just might end up being a warm-up of sorts for when Mueller submits his report.

Waiting for you're integrity.

That's kinda odd.
It's been the conservatives, and the 'I don't like Trump, But...' posters who are sure what the contents of Mueller's report will be. Which they haven't seen. And have no clues to. And are definitely jumping the gun on predicting that it'll be a disappointment...
While the rest of us have been literally stating that we don't know what Mueller knows, or what he will report.

Poster seems to be posting from an alternate reality...

The Alternative Facts universe is solidly constructed of unassailable certitudes. They're like a 30' concrete wall that cannot be breached. Unfortunately for the inhabitants of that universe, few of us choose the fruitless path of trying to breach it. That's because reality provides plenty of paths over, under and around it.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

For all we know Mueller might have had the story planted in order to allow the effects of the letdown begin. I would not put it past him.

If [AirQuote]For all we know ...[/AirQuote] why should anyone have to [AirQuote]come clean[/AirQuote]?

Conspiracy thinking springs eternal. There must be something advantageous and sustaining to spend amounts of one's time living in an imaginary reality. Isn't this what drugs and alcohol allow too?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Isn't this what drugs and alcohol allow too?

Yes, but drinking the Kool-Ade doesn't show up in piss tests or breathalyzers...

 

[Gun Nut]

..... And Muller's team comes out and calls it false. Now what?

Now anyone who swallowed it wholesale gets to admit they were wrong and promises to do better in the future. That's called integrity.

who did that? I heard a whole lot of "If so..." statements.. but no "it must be the gospel truth" statements.