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Truck driven down NYC bike path

Don,

The problem is not that I am seeing ill behavior here that I am not seeing elsewhere. The problem actually is that I am seeing the same ill behavior here that I am seeing elsewhere. In recent times I have found myself lurking on Facebook, and for years already I have been lurking/posting on other conservative and religious sites. I see the same sick trends and behaviors and norms established there, and it bothers me to see them. I had just thought our community would do better than that. We would actually be interested in understanding the horrific event first and foremost and then have serious discussions on how to reduce any kind of similar events from occurring going forward. That should be our initial impulse, that should be our general goal, that should be our focused purpose. For so long I have seen on so many sites all across the internet, the exact opposite of that happening. People’s initial impulse or general goal seems to be to learn about some tragedy happening and then think “Ok, how can I use this event to get in a quick jab at [Obama, or Trump, or conservative media, or liberal media, whomever…]. If they do want to criticize such people and such media or anyone or anything else, that is excellent. It is just the just initial impulse being towards derailing the news story so that we can criticize our political opponents with *non-serious and even satirical quick-punches,* instead of trying to actually discuss and resolve the problems, that bothers me so much. If someone here makes some tasteless remark *in a thread like this where we were getting news info about the details of what happened* then we should just try to ignore that troll and focus on the story itself. The trolls can be debated and refuted elsewhere. Let’s just make the actual event the focus of the thread and our attention, rather than the trolls who also post in it, or the political targets we want to criticize by finding a way to use the event.

Again I want to make clear---it is not something unique to this particular thread or this particular forum that bothers me. It is the fact that I am seeing it all over the internet, and not seeing anything different about it in the forum here. I just have a particular psychological and emotional connection to this forum, and would hate to see it become essentially just another forum somewhere on the internet, posting the same garbage that is seen everywhere else on the internet, and nothing better.

Brian
 
Been curious about this...

Should the driver have bought insurance when renting the truck?

There are some technical issues, such as -

Would it matter if he didn't have permission to drive the truck in NY (after renting it in NJ).
Are there any payoff implications related to the driver's state of mind when he purchased the insurance.

It seems to me that under the circumstances, purchasing insurance should be a no-brainer.

Sorry if the question has already come up in this thread.
 
Been curious about this...

Should the driver have bought insurance when renting the truck?

There are some technical issues, such as -

Would it matter if he didn't have permission to drive the truck in NY (after renting it in NJ).
Are there any payoff implications related to the driver's state of mind when he purchased the insurance.

It seems to me that under the circumstances, purchasing insurance should be a no-brainer.

Sorry if the question has already come up in this thread.

I don't think it would matter. Don't insurance contracts have an exclusion clause for intended damages? Since he purposefully attacked those people, I don't think that the insurance company would have any liability at all.

However, hypothetically speaking, what if another ISIS terrorist had been walking there when he drove into the crowd? Since his intent was to kill infidels, if he'd inadvertently hit a fellow jihadist, would that count as unintentional damages and the insurance company would have to pay up to that guy?
 
Been curious about this...

Should the driver have bought insurance when renting the truck?

There are some technical issues, such as -

Would it matter if he didn't have permission to drive the truck in NY (after renting it in NJ).
Are there any payoff implications related to the driver's state of mind when he purchased the insurance.

It seems to me that under the circumstances, purchasing insurance should be a no-brainer.

Sorry if the question has already come up in this thread.

My guess is he planned to be dead.

So the insurance would have little expected value to him. On the other hand, if he could put it on his credit card he wouldn't have cared too much about the cost.
 
The liability for inflicting injuries on bystanders is one element, but his estate would also be liable for property damage to the truck, etc.

It might important if it could be proven that he intended to perform the act when renting the truck, but he had rented trucks from HD previously.

My life insurance policy pays off if I commit suicide (after 1 year from the start date).

There is the possibility that HD could be sued because it was their truck.

There are implications if the guy is defined as an enemy combatant, since, in that case, it's is doubtful if his estate can be sued.

These all seem like interesting issues.
 
The liability for inflicting injuries on bystanders is one element, but his estate would also be liable for property damage to the truck, etc.

It might important if it could be proven that he intended to perform the act when renting the truck, but he had rented trucks from HD previously.

My life insurance policy pays off if I commit suicide (after 1 year from the start date).

There is the possibility that HD could be sued because it was their truck.

There are implications if the guy is defined as an enemy combatant, since, in that case, it's is doubtful if his estate can be sued.

These all seem like interesting issues.

I'd guess he was more focused on his 78 virgins/raisins in paradise and less on careful estate planning.
 
Trump's call for the death penalty could help New York truck assailant - USA Today

Another reason the idiot-in-chief should keep his stupid, fat mouth shut.

So basically, every single current or former prosecutor or defense attorney they interviewed for that article holds the opinion that the orange turd's twitter rants are damaging to the trial/sentencing process except... wait for it...

a partisan idiot at the "Thomas More Law Center, a public interest law firm that supports a strong national defense and promotes moral values." Gee, no big surprise there. :rolleyes:
 
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